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If you don't have a Lucas Fault Manual it can be accessed here: =
http://herald-tips-tricks.wdfiles.com/local--files/start%3Astart0/Lucas%2=
0Fault%20Diagnosis%20Service%20Manual.pdf (I don't recall seeing a link =
posted, if there was I apologize for the redundency).
I like it because most of the tests can be done with a simple =
multi-meter, and even a semi electronically challenged guy like me can =
understand and follow the steps.
Greg Lemon
From: Dave=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 7:40 AM
To: dave@ranteer.com ; triumphs@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [TR] wiring or ?
And it was quick, easy and cost nothing, right? ;-)
OK, take Geo's advice and follow the Lucas manual. They will probably =
tell you to double check the connections among other things. You may =
have to resort to using a voltmeter and measure voltages at the voltage =
at the dynamo terminal of the generator. If it is only a few volts then =
I would suspect the connections between the generator and the regulator.
Or bad brushes.
Dave Massey
-----Original Message-----
From: dave n <dave@ranteer.com>
To: Dave <dave1massey@cs.com>; triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2015 9:02 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] wiring or ?
we reflashed the generator several times=20
=20
From: Dave=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 8:49 PM=20
To: dave@ranteer.com ; triumphs@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [TR] wiring or ?=20
=20
I'd start with reflashing the field. It is quick, easy and costs =
nothing.
It sounds like you're making progress. It always seems to be a bunch of =
little things that get taken care of one at a time.
=20
=20
Dave Massey=20
=20
=20
-----Original Message-----=20
From: dave n <dave@ranteer.com>=20
To: triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>=20
Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2015 4:04 pm=20
Subject: [TR] wiring or ?=20
57 TR3, small mouth, early disk brake car. supposedly everything is new =
and/or rebuilt, but i'm not so sure. car has been being worked on for a =
decade; this car was mostly put together by an incompetent mechanic, so =
keep that in mind. i am still trying to finish the car and undo his =
crap. =20
we put the instrument panel in and wired the supposedly new set of =
gauges. we finally got the car running, and its got about 2 miles on =
it. the red generator stayed lit during these 2 miles. we finally =
figured out he had supplied a positive ground generator for a negative =
ground car, flashed the generator, and the light went out.=20
we then discovered that the gas gauge did not work. we pulled it, tried =
some things, discovered that the sending unit was not working, replaced =
that, but the gauge still did not work. had the gauge rebuilt, and now =
its working.=20
but the generator light is back on. we thought it might be the voltage =
regulator, but we pulled it and tested it with nothing suspicious. plus =
i swapped in a regulator from a running car, with no change.=20
i'm thinking it could be the ammeter, or possibly when we were messing =
with the fuel gauge, we caused something to short or loosened a =
connection. this car has a heater, so all that stuff is really crammed =
in there.=20
i've got a tr4 ammeter, which according to moss, is the same. and i'm =
going to look at the wiring. any ideas, thoughts, recommendations, etc =
are more than welcome.=20
not only is this guy a lousy mechanic, he put a bunch of philip head =
screws and bolts into a car which never had anything but slotted head. =
plus he had my car for several years without actually doing anything on =
it. so by the time we discovered there were issues with the paint, it =
was too late to go back to the painter. and i had specifically asked =
him to make sure the paint was ok when he picked it up from the painter. =
then he said it was my fault for approving it, when i wasn't even =
there. =20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DCalibri>If you don't have a Lucas Fault Manual it can =
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0/Lucas%20Fault%20Diagnosis%20Service%20Manual.pdf CTRL + Click to =
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cks.wdfiles.com/local--files/start%3Astart0/Lucas%20Fault%20Diagnosis%20S=
ervice%20Manual.pdf</A> (I=20
don't recall seeing a link posted, if there was I apologize for the=20
redundency).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DCalibri>I like it because most of the tests can be =
done with a=20
simple multi-meter, and even a semi electronically challenged guy like =
me can=20
understand and follow the steps.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCalibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCalibri>Greg Lemon</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=3Ddave1massey@cs.com=20
href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com";>Dave</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 29, 2015 7:40 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Ddave@ranteer.com=20
href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>dave@ranteer.com</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dtriumphs@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [TR] wiring or ?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT color=3Dblack size=3D4=20
face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><FONT size=3D4>And it was quick, =
easy and cost=20
nothing, right? ;-)<BR><BR>OK, take Geo's advice and follow the =
Lucas=20
manual. They will probably tell you to double check the =
connections among=20
other things. You may have to resort to using a voltmeter and =
measure=20
voltages at the voltage at the dynamo terminal of the generator. =
If it is=20
only a few volts then I would suspect the connections between the =
generator and=20
the regulator.<BR><BR>Or bad brushes.<BR></FONT>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"CLEAR: both"><FONT size=3D4>Dave =
Massey</FONT><BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: =
black">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR>From: dave n <dave@ranteer.com><BR>To: Dave=20
<dave1massey@cs.com>; triumphs =
<triumphs@autox.team.net><BR>Sent:=20
Tue, Jul 28, 2015 9:02 pm<BR>Subject: Re: [TR] wiring or ?<BR><BR>
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<DIV>we reflashed the generator several times </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=3Ddave1massey@cs.com=20
target=3D_blank=20
removedlink__9c8685d3-72ba-4f34-8626-986cd4f0bcaf__href=3D"mailto:dave1ma=
ssey@cs.com">Dave</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 28, 2015 8:49 PM </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Ddave@ranteer.com target=3D_blank=20
removedlink__9c8685d3-72ba-4f34-8626-986cd4f0bcaf__href=3D"mailto:dave@ra=
nteer.com">dave@ranteer.com</A>=20
; <A title=3Dtriumphs@autox.team.net target=3D_blank=20
removedlink__9c8685d3-72ba-4f34-8626-986cd4f0bcaf__href=3D"mailto:triumph=
s@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [TR] wiring or ? </DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
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"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
DISPLAY: inline'><FONT=20
color=3Dblack size=3D4 face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><FONT =
size=3D4>I'd start=20
with reflashing the field. It is quick, easy and costs =
nothing.<BR><BR>It=20
sounds like you're making progress. It always seems to be a bunch =
of=20
little things that get taken care of one at a time.<BR></FONT>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"CLEAR: both"><FONT size=3D4>Dave Massey</FONT> =
<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: =
black">-----Original=20
Message----- <BR>From: dave n <<A=20
removedlink__9c8685d3-72ba-4f34-8626-986cd4f0bcaf__href=3D"mailto:dave@ra=
nteer.com">dave@ranteer.com</A>>=20
<BR>To: triumphs <<A=20
removedlink__9c8685d3-72ba-4f34-8626-986cd4f0bcaf__href=3D"mailto:triumph=
s@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</A>>=20
<BR>Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2015 4:04 pm <BR>Subject: [TR] wiring or ? =
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<DIV>57 TR3, small mouth, early disk brake car. supposedly =
everything is=20
new and/or rebuilt, but i'm not so sure. car has been being worked =
on for=20
a decade; this car was mostly put together by an incompetent mechanic, =
so keep=20
that in mind. i am still trying to finish the car and undo his =
crap. =20
</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>we put the instrument panel in and wired the supposedly new set of=20
gauges. we finally got the car running, and its got about 2 miles =
on=20
it. the red generator stayed lit during these 2 miles. we =
finally=20
figured out he had supplied a positive ground generator for a negative =
ground=20
car, flashed the generator, and the light went out. </DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>we then discovered that the gas gauge did not work. we pulled =
it,=20
tried some things, discovered that the sending unit was not working, =
replaced=20
that, but the gauge still did not work. had the gauge rebuilt, and =
now its=20
working. </DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>but the generator light is back on. we thought it might be =
the=20
voltage regulator, but we pulled it and tested it with nothing =
suspicious. =20
plus i swapped in a regulator from a running car, with no change. </DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>i'm thinking it could be the ammeter, or possibly when we were =
messing with=20
the fuel gauge, we caused something to short or loosened a =
connection. =20
this car has a heater, so all that stuff is really crammed in there. =
</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>i've got a tr4 ammeter, which according to moss, is the same. =
and i'm=20
going to look at the wiring. any ideas, thoughts, recommendations, =
etc are=20
more than welcome. </DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>not only is this guy a lousy mechanic, he put a bunch of philip =
head screws=20
and bolts into a car which never had anything but slotted=20
head. plus he had my car for several years without =
actually=20
doing anything on it. so by the time we discovered there were =
issues with=20
the paint, it was too late to go back to the painter. and i had=20
specifically asked him to make sure the paint was ok when he picked it =
up from=20
the painter. then he said it was my fault for approving it, when i =
wasn't=20
even there. </DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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