In a message dated 10/29/2010 7:53:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Dave1massey@cs.com writes:
In talking to Darrell, VTR is quite aware of this effect and there is talk
of promoting a "Survivor's" class for unrestored cars.
Dave,
That could be the Preservation of Original Features Class. We have
discussed it. I believe it should be a non competitive class with Gold,
Silver
and Bronze awards. Not sure there is much interest but it is certainly open
for discussion.
Also, judges are instructed:
To use the standard of new vehicle on the showroom floor. Many of you have
seen clean original Triumph's and they really were not that great, Huh?
The standard is NOT the pristinely restored car coming out of a trailer.
Over restoration is neither rewarded or penalized. Many times a driven car
will score higher than a Trailer queen but not always. Did any of you look
at the last TR6 on display at Jekyll with less than 1000 miles on the
clock? How about that orange peeled BRG paint job?
To only deduct for accumulated dirt, grease and oil not fresh dirt
acquired driving to and at the convention so rubber shavings in the wheel
wells
from the autocross is OK. Since we drive our cars a certain amount of
minimal wear and tear is to be expected. Mishaps occurring driving to and at
the
convention are forgiven. For instance I shattered my drivers side glass on
the TR6 right after the Fun Rallye.
To make deductions for reproduction parts if they differ significantly in
form or material from the original parts. The deduction is one half of the
total points for the component in question. Consumable parts such as
radiator caps, ignition wires (must be the correct color), fuses, etc are not
receiving deduction. We still like to see the original baby tennax fasteners
on early TR2's and the Lucas script on radiator caps but we have made
allowances for some parts that are not available anywhere such as allowing
stainless steel exhaust systems.
At Jekyll I had and excellent crew of volunteer judges and they were very
kind to the cars. All the Triumphs received Gold certificates except two
that were Silver with no Bronze so the Triumphs presented must have been in
excellent condition. Some of the classes were very competitive. The BOS was
actually an original very low mileage original 80 Spitfire 1500 not a
restored car. Second in that class was a lightly restored 1500 that was
formerly
BOS at VTR. If anyone really wants to know how we judge, please attend
the judges school. All are welcome.
There always are really nice Triumphs that do not show in Concours and
prefer Participants Choice. I often wonder why and that is something I would
not do myself. Perhaps they know the have a good chance to win by popular
vote. Truthfully I don't mind much because with 60 to 85 cars we have a
decent work load and a limited amount of time. Lesser cars in Concours by
Rule
may be visually judged with general deductions if a team has several cars
to judge. The important job is to get the 1st, 2nd, and third place cars
correct.
I am the one (perhaps the only one) who would like the toss the driving
requirement. So that talk may be coming from me alone. I believe if a Triumph
is driven on to the show field under it's own power that is enough.
During over 20 years of going to Triumph national car shows I have seen
exactly
two cars rolled out of trailers onto the show field.. Once at a TRA
National Meeting and once at Canadian Classic. The one at TRA got hammered in
Concours. I have heard of a few instances where Triumph owners drove to the
convention and did not realize they needed a driving event to show. Should
driving to the convention be a driving event? I had a TR8 beat my TR8 in
Concours when he did the Gymkhana in reverse gear because he had lost all
forward gears driving to the convention and came in on a trailer. I did not
mind. His car was better than mine and he was a fine person by the name of
Bill Wood. This year a very good friend of mine drove his TR6 850 miles to
Jekyll with a leaking water pump. He took it on the dinner runs the nite
before the Concours to get a sticker but just didn't feel like cleaning it
anymore and left it out of the show. I was prepared to wave the
requirement if he asked. The requirement has been waved before for good
reasons.
Off my soapbox for now and yes I will now put on my Flame Retardant Suit.
Cheers,
Darrell
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