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Re: [TR] camber specifications TR4

To: "Jeff W. Kimbrell" <kimbrelltr4@yahoo.com>, Triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] camber specifications TR4
From: pethier@comcast.net
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:30:49 +0000
From: "Jeff W. Kimbrell" <kimbrelltr4@yahoo.com>
> I own a 1962 TR4. The specification for the camber on the front end is listed 
>as 
> 2 degrees positive in the repair manual.

Yes, to match the camber pull of the the toe-in.  Give a nice, stable steering 
on the highway.

> However I have noticed several parts 
> offered which can give you a fixed, or adjustable negative camber setting . 

Interesting.  Where did you see this?  Most parts I see are for the TR4A and 
the cars that followed.

>  My 
> question is if there is a handling advantage in changing from the stock 
> specification to the negative setting ?

Absolutely.  Positive camber is awful for cornering.  The concept is that you 
want to use the whole face f the tire tread evenly.  This means that the 
dynamic camber (the camber that you have on the outside wheel while actually 
cornering) should be zero or a bit negative. 

An unequal-length upper/lower wishbone suspension is designed to make the 
camber go more negative as the car leans.  This effect is measured by a "camber 
curve".

The camber curve on a TR4 is not going to go negative enough to cancel out both 
the positive static camber and the tilting of the chassis.  A big front swaybar 
helps (and has the added happy effect of nailing down the inside front wheel), 
by lessening body roll.

If you start with a negative static camber, you can tune the car to have an 
optimal dynamic camber.  You want to match that negative camber with a bit of 
toe-out to lessen tire wear on the highway.  You steering will not be the 
solid, stable setup that was designed-in, but a darty responsive type ideal for 
autocrossing but more tiring on long freeway drives.

These camber parts are not likely to be legal for Vintage Triumph Register 
stock-category autocrossing, but the sway bar is...


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Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA
62 Triumph TR4 CT2846L, 07 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, 93 Suburban, 94 Miata C-package, 
79 Caterham 7
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