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Re: Stanpart numbers

To: kc3565l@sprintmail.com
Subject: Re: Stanpart numbers
From: ZoboHerald@aol.com
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:13:54 EDT
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
In a message dated 4/15/2003 11:46:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
kc3565l@sprintmail.com writes:

> >Can somebody help me identify these pistons?  I removed the
> >head from my recently acquired GT6 project car and found, as
> >expected, that it had a blown head gasket.  When I scraped
> >the crud off the tops of the pistons, I found that 1-5 have
> >Stanpart number 214947 S31 on them.  Number 6
> >has 207045 R17.  That was also the cylinder that had the
> >blown gasket so this is apparently not the first time this
> >has happened.  Can somebody tell me how far #6 has been
> >overbored from that part number?  The engine is an early
> >GT6+ block (KD53420E).  Looks like it's time for some
> >serious machine work and new pistons.

I'd first replied to Dave that: "TRF came up with one match [out of two].
According to [their online catalog], 207045 is a "Piston, Bare" and is no
longer stocked. I'm not sure what a bare piston is, except that perhaps it
was supplied without rings? Still leaves me wondering about the other five
pistons, though...."

But then I remembered that I had an early GT6 engine -- KC4213E -- with the
head off, all stuffed in the barn.Sure enough, I hit paydirt (well, actually
I scraped dirt off the tops of a couple pistons). This was a very low mileage
engine out of a wreck many, many years ago. But I digress. Pistons 1 & 6
carried the Stanpart logo and the number 207045. One had below it "R6" and
the other "R8" -- for whatever that's worth.

So perhaps the 214947 pistons in cylinders 1-5 are original "Pistons, Bare"
used in the factory assembly of that later engine, and the 207045 came out of
a dealer's stock to replace a problem piston in cylinder 6? What's confusing
is that part numbers in the factory Spare Parts Catalogues appear to be for a
"piston assembly" (p/n 139809 for early GT6 engines and 149976 for later
engines) that presumably includes rings and the wrist pin w/clips, whereas
the Stanpart number on the top of the piston is literally the (unlisted) part
number for just the cast piston itself.

Anyone got the head off an original GT6+ or Mk2 engine to possibly confirm
that 214947 is an original piston for same?

--Andy Mace

*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er,
 Triumph Herald engine with wings.
   -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22)

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