Oh boy!! I can see that this thread is going about the same place as the
Iraq/war thread - a long way from LBCs!! Suffice it to say that books have
been written about this subject, and there are definitely 2 or 3 sides to
this issue. Not real sure that any one side is totally correct.
Anyway, now that we've identified each side, I'm sure the discussion will
more appropriately continue at some LBC event here on the west coast,
probably while hoisting a pint or two!
Anybody have any thoughts on whether a hardtop on a TR2 should be painted
body color (signal red in my case) or black? My preference is black, but I
thought I'd get some opinions from others.
David Gunn
TR2 TS3388L
Chico, CA
>From: "Paige, Dean" <DPaige@ci.santa-rosa.ca.us>
>Reply-To: "Paige, Dean" <DPaige@ci.santa-rosa.ca.us>
>To: "'David Gunn'" <ccgunn1010@hotmail.com>, mandrews53@earthlink.net,
>vafred@erols.com, ryoung@navcomtech.com, triumphs@autox.team.net
>Subject: RE: Dean Florez (was Question About Smog Control in England)
>Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 10:13:50 -0800
>
>There will no longer BE Special Rules or Regulations for farmers... that's
>the point... they have been exempted from clean air regulatons since the
>get
>go. Only now are they falling under the regs that the rest of industry and
>the public must follow. And...the biggest problem in the valley is
>particulate matter. Been determined to be the cause of much of the
>widespread respiratory problems reported there. Dust control or lack
>thereof
>in field preparation and maintenance, and burning are the main
>contributors.
>That along with totally (until now) unregulated diesel engines used for
>farming, tractros, reapers, pumps etc etc has long made the valley the
>worst air pollution basins in the state in terms of air quality.
>
>OUr LBC's represent an insignificant fraction of a fraction of the air
>quality problems in the ag areas. You can lay air quality issues in these
>areas directly at the feet of agriculture! Farmers have recieved special
>treatment in the past in this regard. Whats happening is not new
>regulations
>it's just regulations being applied uniformly throughout the public and
>business sectors.
>
>Dean
>Environmental Compliance Officer
>City of Santa Rosa
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Gunn [mailto:ccgunn1010@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:22 AM
>To: mandrews53@earthlink.net; vafred@erols.com; ryoung@navcomtech.com;
>triumphs@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: Dean Florez (was Question About Smog Control in England)
>
>
>As one who lives in "Upstate California", there are rice fields and other
>ag
>
>surrounding me. The only burning of fields is the rice stubble after the
>harvest. There is quite a controversy going on, as it is evidently
>necessary to get rid of the stubble before planting the next season, and
>there is no economical way to do it, except burning. There is even some
>kind of fungus that grows in it, if it is not removed. The farmers have
>tried plowing it under, but it doesn't break down over the winter. They
>have even tried making rice straw insulation, rice straw energy production,
>rice straw "anything", but I guess the economics just doesn't work.
>Everyone
>
>is very aware of the smoke problem, and the rice fields are burned only on
>certain days - usually when a good North wind is blowing - so we have nice
>clear air, and the smoke all goes south to Sacramento. ;-) Not to worry,
>though - the politicians have set a date by which all burning will have
>stopped - it's currently being phased out.
>
>I think this smog problem is a lot bigger than just one or two industries
>or
>
>geographical locations. The ag people are really hurting, and have been
>for
>
>awhile, and I wouldn't be in favor of saddling them with too many more
>special rules and regulations.
>
>I personally don't have a problem with smog emission controls, or with
>gettng smoking vehicles (whether they are new or old) off of the road. I
>also don't like the idea of forcing the junking of "classic" vehicles (I
>only own 1 car that is newer than 1979, and 9 that are older!) It seems
>that, as reasonable people, somethng could be worked out - but probably not
>when political egos are involved, or party politics.
>
>David Gunn, TR2 in Chico, CA
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Michael Andrews" <mandrews53@earthlink.net>
> >Reply-To: "Michael Andrews" <mandrews53@earthlink.net>
> >To: Fred Thomas <vafred@erols.com>, Randall Young
><ryoung@navcomtech.com>,
>
> > Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> >Subject: Re: Dean Florez (was Question About Smog Control in England)
> >Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 20:41:49 -0800
> >
> >I have driven up state --lots of agriculture ---rice and things --they
>have
> >a quaint custom of burning off the fields --an amazing thing to see and
> >impossible to see through( or breathe) when you drive into one of these
> >smoky clouds that blanket the road and area--Maybe they need to change
> >their
> >harvesting techniques-
> >Mike TR2inLA
>
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