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Subject: TR6 Starting Problem
From: "Dennis N Culligan" <dncullig@us.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 14:00:36 -0400 |July 29, 2002) at 09/02/2002 02:00:40 PM
LisTeRs -
        Well, the combined genius on the list solved Darryl Floyd's
electrical
problem with his TR250 - how about we tackle mine?
         The specifics - 1976 TR6 - engine rebuilt last year (milled head,
up-
rated cam, etc). Battery and starter are a few years old. Car has Pertronix
electronic ignition.  Car was re-painted this past spring.  Seat belt
interlocks
were removed in 1989.
        The car ALWAYS starts the first time when cold. After warm up.
however,
it occasionally (20% of the time) will not start.  I turn the key and the
ignition
lights come on but I get NOTHING - no clicks, no nothin'.  HOWEVER (and
here's the weird part), if I keep the key in the START position and move
the
gearshift knob back and forth through the neutral gate, IT STARTS!
       We thought it might be the negative battery connection and sure
enough,
the negative cable was more than half gone where it attaches between the
body and the motor (motor moves, body doesn't - cable eventually breaks).
However, after replacing the cable, I'm still having the problem.
        I looked through Dan Master's book but could find nothing that
appeared
to be relevant (even under the heading "Weird Things" on page 15).
       There's no reverse lockout or any other electrical connections that
I know
of between the starter and the shifter, so how is this motion of the
shifter allow-
ing the car to start? Any and all ideas appreciated...

                       Dennis Culligan /1976 TR6 - CF57948U - TR6IUMPH

PS - It occurred to me that the back-up lights might somehow be involved,
         but I don't believe I've ever moved the shift lever all the way
into re-
         verse during any of these mis-starts.  DC

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