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Re: clutch fluid

To: Alan <asalvato@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: clutch fluid
From: Bill Kelly <bk54@erols.com>
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 00:23:13 -0400
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
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Alan wrote:

> I went to the store to buy clutch fluid & I was told brake flluid is the same.
> So i bought brake fluid #3.  I have tried to bleed the clutch and am not
> having any success.  I am pushing clutch all the way in and tightening the
> bleed screw and then letting up the clutch.  I am not seeing any bubbles.  Is
> it the process or the fluid???
> thanks
> al
> 

Al,

First of all, clutch fluid and brake fluid are the same. Second, your 
bleeding procedure is correct, as far as you describe it.

I gather you are keeping the reservoir in the master cylinder filled, 
and that the stuff that's coming out without bubbles is fluid, not air:>

Which means there's a large pocket of air in the system. There are a few 
possibilities.

#1 - is the bleed valve on the top at the slave cylinder, or at the 
bottom? It MUST be at the top, or there's no way to get rid of air 
trapped up there.

#2 - there's a big air pocket in the line. Perhaps you're just pushing 
the pedal too gently to move the air into the slave cylinder, where it 
can escape. Slam it to the floor!

#3 - the air pocket is too far from the slave cylinder to reach it in a 
single pump, no matter how hard you push. It moves back up to the high 
spot as soon as you're done pushing in the pedal. If this is the case, 
you'll have to give it a shorter downhill run. Disconnect the slave 
cylinder from the bell housing (leave the hydraulics connected). Very 
gently raise it until it's the highest point in the system. You're going 
to bleed it up there, so consider how you're going to keep fluid from 
squirting where you don't want it to go (paint, carpeting, eyes...)

Before you crack open the bleeder, pump the pedal a couple of times. 
This will push the slave cylinder piston out against its retaining ring 
(caution - I cannot personally guarantee that there is currently a 
retaining ring in YOUR slave cylinder. If there isn't, the piston will 
fly out. Don't let this happen!) The pedal will suddenly go from real 
easy to real hard when the piston hits the reatining ring. Now bleed. 
When all the air is out, your pedal will be rock hard. Reattach the 
slave to the car (bleeder valve up).

That's it. You're done.
Bill Kelly

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