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Re: Heritage Certificate? VTR Records on TR2s? (long!)

To: rblubaug@netnitco.net, Triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Heritage Certificate? VTR Records on TR2s? (long!)
From: TRIPHSTEVE@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 12:11:28 EST
Cc: lmtr4a@ctlnet.com
Dear Rob, Lou and List-


Rob raises some good questions. I have also copied Lou Metelko, who bought my 
TR2 and is restoring it as we "lurk."

The Heritage certificate can be obtained through TRA. I had one for my TR2 
and my TR3B, both of which were helpful. You should write:

                    Joel Rosen
                    833 Rampart Way
                    Union Bridge, MD   21791

You also need to send $10 for the certificate.

Since Lou is in the middle of the TR2 restoration perhaps he would be better 
suited to answer the remaining questions. While I think I remember some of 
the answers to your questions, a more recent memory would probably be better.

That is one of the reasons having a TR3B is advantageous, few answers are 
wrong. Right Andy?


Steve Thornton
Bowling Green, KY


In a message dated 12/3/2000 1:25:44 AM Central Standard Time, 
rblubaug@netnitco.net writes:

<< 
 Hello again Triumph listers:
 
    Recently, as a new list subscriber, I posted a HELP request with numerous
 questions about the engine and transmission overhauls I intend to undertake
 on my TR2 (#TS7690).  I got a tremendous response with lots of words of
 encouragement.  I can clearly see the great value of participation on the
 list.  I tried to send a separate note of thanks to all who responded
 although I may mave missed on a couple of the later responses (apologies)
 and one of my letters "bounced."  The one that bounced was to Mr. Randal
 Young who now resides in California but was once form the very small
 village in the middle of a very large, flat, cornfield (now my hometown),
 Rensselaer, Indiana.  Thanks for your reply Mr. Young!  I will follow up on
 the machine shop references you gave me for Rensselaer, Lafayette, etc.
 
    Now I would like to bring another question to the group.  This question
 probably shows my lack of general knowledge about Truimphs and LBCs in
 general.  It relates to something that Mr. Steve Thorton of Bowling Green,
 KY said about the TR3B on Ebay.  He made reference to a "Heritage
 Certificate."  (Mr. Thorton, my original home town was Bowling Green,
 ........  INDIANA.)  Could someone please tell me more about the Heritage
 Certificate?
 
    Actually, I think I may have seen one.  At Auburn, IN at the Kruse auction
 this past Labor Day, there was a 55 TR2 that went through the auction and
 it brought (apx.) $24,000.  The owner had some formal looking papers that
 told the date and even the hour of the manufacture of the car.  WOULD THIS
 HAVE BEEN A HERITAGE CERTIFICATE?  I was really surprized to see the car
 bring the price it did.  (My TR2 is also a "signal red" '55 model, but it
 will NEVER bring that kind of money!)  The car at the Auburn auction was
 somewhat unusual as it was a right hand drive car.  The owner speculated
 that it might be the only right hand drive TR2 in North America.  (Did a
 serviceman buy it overseas and ship it to the States??)  I think the seller
 was from Michigan but he did not seem to have any connections with VTR.  
 The car was not a #1, but it was very nice.  I rather imagine that we'll be
 seeing it at some future VTR events.  I was showing "comparison" photos of
 the car since I had my digital camera in hand and I had several photos of
 my TR2 stored on the flash card.  (The owner refused to believe me that
 some TR2s had a three quarter surround chrome trim around the "mouth" of
 the apron operning.  My car had the piece and his did not. So my digital
 camera helped to support my claim.)
 
    How would someone obtain a "Heritage Certificate" on their car?  Does
 anyone with VTR have any estimate of how many TR2s surrvive?  Is there data
 to show what engine numbers would have been been installed in certain
 commission series?  I have a book which indicated there were apx. 8600 TR2s
 made with almost 6000 produced for export.  Does anyone know how many of
 the nearly 6000 made it into the United States?  I think with a commission
 number of 7690 that my car must have been very late in the TR2 production
 run.  Other owners have pointed out that my "2" has some things in common
 with the early TR3s  (air vent forward of the windscreen).  Is it possible
 to find out what dealer may have sold the car?  I bought the car last July
 from a man in Covington, Indiana which is about twenty miles from Danville,
 Illinois.  In the glovebox of my car I have found a dealership decal from a
 Danville, IL dealership.  I am wondering if my car has ever gotten very far
 from it's "home" dealership.  (The agency has certainly long since
 vanished.)  Would VTR have any records to show if any other owner of this
 car had registered with VTR?
 
    I am sorry to write so long a letter to the list.  I don't know if my
 inquiry is properly "technical" for the list.  I know there has been some
 expressed concerns about list content of late and I surely do not wish to
 violate the list ettiquet.
 
 Respectfully yours,
 Rob Blubaugh
 Rensselaer, IN
 TR2 (#TS7690)

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