Sorry, meant 3AG size, not BAG.
George Richardson wrote:
> I've got no augments except one - The lucas fuses that I have from both my
>Stag
> and 2 Jag XJ6 are identical in size to what used to be the old BAG size in
>the US.
> Identical.
>
> TriStagReg@aol.com wrote:
>
> > My Apologies to Art, Mike, Andy, and George.
> >
> > Did not mean to piss you off. Just got a bit heavy handed on my
> > responses. I must realize that everyone is not an electrical engineer, and
> > you caught the brunt of a similar discussion I had Wednesday and Thursday at
> > a client sending equipment to the EC.
> >
> > Point is, there is only a difference in semantics, not design. The
>Lucas
> > "35 amp fuse" is actually a 17 amp fuse rated at 17 amps with a 35 amp
>surge
> > rating. It has "35" in the paper tube to show surge rating, and shows 17
> > amps continuous current rating. If you read the application information for
> > the Lucas fuses, this point is clear.
> >
> > The right approach for this is for me (and possibly George and Dan) to
> > gather the design information FACTS from Lucas and the USA manufacturers,
>the
> > standards they use, sort out the chaff and do a one paragraph analysis.
> > I'll gather all the relevant "design and application" information, make the
> > simple comparison, and email to the lists and add it to the VTR pages. What
> > we will find however, is that owners are installing the incorrect "size",
> > "type", and "rating" of fuse.
> >
> > The real danger here is that owners do not replace the fuses in their cars
> > with the correct "size", "type" or "rating" fuse. A Lucas fuse came out, a
> > Lucas or "similar equivalent" fuse must ALWAYS go back in. That is, a 5mm
>x
> > 20mm size "IEC" type fuse came out, replace it with the same physical size,
> > type and rated fuse. If you have Chrysler, do you put VW parts into it?
> >
> > For George, US manufacturers always use the relevant and proper
>standards
> > when designing a "size" fuse, absolutely no question about it. It is the
> > application engineer that errors, or the maintenance technician. That is,
> > when Littlefuse makes a 5mm x 20mm fuse, it is made to IEC standards because
> > we do not use 5mm x 20 mm fuses normally in the states. That means its
> > labeling corresponds to the IEC tests and specifications, just like a Lucas
> > fuse does. It even says "IEC" on the fuse cap in most instances. Lucas
>fuses
> > are indeed 5mm x 20 mm IEC fuses. US fuses do not fit in the fuse clips of
> > Triumphs because US fuses are larger physical size. Take a look at the
> > Littlefuse and Bussman catalogs, they are quite clear on this.
> > This is why manufacturers sell fuse clips that correspond to the fuses
> > that they produce, so when the maintenance tech tries to fit a different
> > rated, size or type of fuse, it will usually not fit into the clips. This
>is
> > supposed to be the first indication to the person replacing the fuse to tell
> > them the fuse they are trying to insert is incorrect.
> > If you get a 35 amp US made Littlefuse or Bussman fuse to put into the
> > place a Lucas fuse came out of, it extends past the fuse clips. If you buy
>a
> > US made Littlefuse or Bussman 5mm x 20mm 35 amp fuse, it states on it 17amps
> > / 35 amps, and it fits within the fuse clips.
> >
> > In closing, Art has brought up a very valid and straight forward
>question
> > that I am sure other Triumph owners in non EC countries have wrestled with
> > for years and caused a lot of damage through mis-application. It is up to
> > those of us who have the expertise in these areas to provide a proper
> > solution and correct erroneous assumptions that could cause harm. Agreed, I
> > was a bit heavy handed, but this discussion needs to be brought out clearly
> > with correct information, not supposition.
> >
> > Art, to answer your question the way should have the first time, when you go
> > the auto parts store, ask for a Lucas fuse equivalent, or IEC equivalent, or
> > 5mm x 20 mm fuse physical size. Take in the old one, and make sure it says
> > on it IEC, with the two ratings on the cap for current/surge. Replace it
> > with the correct equivalent OEM type part, just like any other part on your
> > British Car.
> >
> > In My Not So Humble Opinion, We should not speculate on this one ...
> >
> > Regards,
> > Glenn Merrell
> > Triumph Stag Register USA VP
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> George Richardson
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> The Hippogrif - '71 Triumph Stag MKI, LE8176E - soon to get a site of it's own
> Kitty - '83 Jaguar XJ6 Vanden Plas - Daily Driver (when running)
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George Richardson
The Wyvern - '57 Triumph TR3, TS15559L - http://www.merlingroupinc.com/tr3.htm
The Hippogrif - '71 Triumph Stag MKI, LE8176E - soon to get a site of it's own
Kitty - '83 Jaguar XJ6 Vanden Plas - Daily Driver (when running)
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