I agree with Andy. I am sixteen years old and was going to a triumph
gt6 to restore to use as a daily driver but...
a. You can only work on a car in a garage and my parents wouldn't let
me move there cars into the driveway.
b. I called my insurance company and they said they will only insure
for the amount the car cost me and not what my repairs were and as a new
driver who would be using this car every day i could not risk losing
that much money if I got in an accident.
So sadly I had to settle with a newer piece of junk that I could get
insured for less and wouldn't cost as much.
Matt Bestoso
72 Rolls Royce Silver Shadow
"John T. Blair" wrote:
>
> Andy L. wrote:
>
> >I don't know the answer to your question but I do believe that we are at a
> >critical juncture for the movement. Do we become a fad like Beanie Babies,
> >or is there something more here? Personally I believe there is something
> >more. Many of the cars we love appeal not only to aging boomers, but to a
> >much wider audience. But those teen-agers have to see them and they have to
> >know that they're good for something more than trailering to a show.
> >
> >My son-in-law wants a TR6 or a Land Rover. There's a bucket of young folks
> >like him out there that would snap at the chance to use one of our cars as a
> >daily driver, or restoration project, but they've gotta see the cars first.
>
> Andy, et al.
>
> I must agree with you - the cars MUST be seen. But this brings me right back
> to the thread I started about the 77 Gremlin and insurance. Some how we
> need to find ins. co.s that will insure these things for more than $200
> in the case of an accident.
>
> While I know that many replied to my post - saying: "just be cause you
> have $10,000 in a $2,000 car doesn't make it worth $10,000."
>
> While this may be so, some how we need to unite and find a way to insure
> the car to be driven. If someone were to purchase an "older" car - don't
> care what - 67 olds, 71 Sonett, 75 Bricklin, 80 Spit ..... for any amount
> of money. That car will probably need some work, a new paint job, an
> engine rebuild, xmission rebuild, new top ..... With a paint job costing
> about a min of $1,000 that is a substantial amount of money. If the car
> were given to you and you dump the $1,000 into it, you CAN'T afford to drive
> it if you'll only get $200 if hit.
>
> If we take a car like a late model Spit - prices are from $0 to $3,000 around
> here. ALL of these cars need some work - which translates to money - to get/
> keep them on the road!
>
> How do we minimize what we have in the car? The only answer is to do the
> work yourself. Most of us one these list are capable of doing the work.
> We may not know how - but we can learn given an Elmer (mentor). Some of
> the work (i.e.. a paint job, eng. machine work) may be beyond the capabilities
> of many. OK that translates to MORE $$$$.
>
> I paid $2,500 for my 77 Spit and have put several $100 into it not counting
> labor and it needs a paint job and maybe
> some rear end and eng. work. So
> by the time I really get her "reliable" I'll have at least $4,000 in her.
> If I actually restore her - I'll have a lot more!
>
> Again, now I NEED to be able to insure that car for at least $4,000 or what
> ever I have in it. Otherwise I and others - especially the younger ones
> that WE need to bring into this hobby will go by a 6-8 yr. car for $4,000 that
> THEY CAN insure for $4,000.
>
> Will they learn as much? Probably NOT. They'll send the car to the nearest
> shop for anything. Will they have as much fun? Again, probably not! I must
> admit that I get a lot more enjoyment out of driving my beat up Spit, or my
> Sonett than I do my 84 Accord (except when it's hot out - I like my AC!)
>
> Next point. If we can entice the younger fellows into this hobby, and they
> want to learn how to maintain their cars - where will they be spending their
> free time? In their (or their parents) garages working on the cars. THIS
> IS A GOOD THING!!! They aren't out running the streets - selling dope -
> doing dope, getting into trouble, etc.!!!!!
>
> But now it comes back to SOCITY and insurance.
> 1. We need to be able to protect our investments!!!! That means realistic
> insurance policy coverate at realistic rates.
> 2. In many many areas it has become illegal to work on your cars at your
> residence. For instance:
> a. where I live, you can’t even change your oil at most appartment and
> town house complexes!
> b. Many areas won’t allow you to work on your car in your front yard!
> c. Many places won’t let you have a parts car in your yard!
>
> These 2 points WILL bring about the demise of your hobby.
>
> I'm not trying to be pessimistic here - just realistic. In many cases
> item 2 above can be over come. If you have a place where you can work on
> your cars, then invite the newer members of our hobby over to work on
> there cars at your place. You will be doing them several favors, keeping
> them out of trouble, and memtoring them. THIS IS A GOOD THING.
>
> Now we need to do find a way to be able to afford to drive our older cars.
> For many, the collector insurance is NOT an option! There has to be a way.
>
> If anyone has had luck with getting their older car insured for a realistic
> value, let us know how you did it. Let us know what insurance companies.
>
> Then if we elect to change our insurance companies, we need to let them
> know why.
>
> John
>
> John T. Blair WA4OHZ email: jblair@exis.net
> Va. Beach, Va Phone: (757) 495-8229
>
> 48 TR1800 65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1109)
> 71 Saab Sonett III (71500840) 75 Bricklin SV1 (0887) 77 Spitfire
>
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> Bricklin: www.bricklin.org
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