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RE: Mc D coffee, lawyers, stupidity and vintage racing

To: "'Lftlesl@aol.com'" <Lftlesl@aol.com>, dterrick@pangea.ca, arthurhsmith@compuserve.com, triumphs@autox.team.net, spitfires@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Mc D coffee, lawyers, stupidity and vintage racing
From: "Padgett, John (Wes) W." <wpadgett@utmb.edu>
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 14:06:59 -0500
<soapbox mode on>

I can't resist this.  If I'm carrying hot coffee, I don't spill it on
myself, and if I do, I expect to get burned.  That is why they call it HOT
coffee.  Beside what is considered the safe temperature to spill coffee in
your lap?  I know that if doesn't burn my tender nether regions then it
probably was hot coffee.  I want to sue because my coffee wasn't hot. ; )
Maybe it should be called warm coffee.

Remember Nadar helped to do away with Corvairs and American convertibles.
Convertibles represented a danger because you could get killed if one rolled
over. Duhhh.  I prefer to except responsibility for myself.  Granted there
are cases of GROSS negligence.  But, come on, hot coffee.  Let's get real.
In respect to the convertibles, people said they would except the inherent
dangers of owning one.

People sued plane manufactures because they crashed and hurt themselves when
they ran out of gas.  They must have forgot to do a proper pre-flight.  The
cost of planes jump up to astronomical prices because of the insurance that
plane manufacturers had to carry.  I don't think you can find a new general
aviation, or any new plane for that matter, under 100K. 

Now states are now trying to sue gun manufactures for liability in deaths
caused by guns.  Are we next going to sue car manufacturers for the same
thing?


Hey Les were is the part about vintage racing?  Just wondering. : )

I would not apologized for stating an opinion.  Though this may not be the
forum to discuss this thread in, so I will apologize for that.  At least we
still have the freedom of speech, so far.

Wes
'72 TR6 (comatose)
'75 Celica (MIA)
'79 RX-7 (dead)
'95 318 ti (alive and well)

<soapbox mode off>
<flame suit on (3-layer nomex)>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lftlesl@aol.com [mailto:Lftlesl@aol.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 11:59 AM
> To: dterrick@pangea.ca; arthurhsmith@compuserve.com;
> triumphs@autox.team.net; spitfires@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Mc D coffee, lawyers, stupidity and vintage racing
> 
> 
> 
> Jeez, I hate to bomb the list about this, but I have been too 
> busy to work on 
> my car for several months and I'm cranky. The anti-lawyer 
> politicians and big 
> business apologists had a field day with the McD coffee suit 
> (no I'm NOT a 
> lawyer, but I'd rather have a trial lawyer on my side than a 
> corporate 
> greedhead), but the facts prove that 1. the woman had a 
> legitimate gripe and 
> 2. the legal system worked just fine.
> The coffee spilled on her lap was WAY above safe 
> temperatures, a fact that 
> McD was well aware of and had ignored despite numerous 
> complaints. The lady 
> had third degree burns and required skin grafts to recover 
> from her injuries. 
> The original reward of several million dollars was reduced to 
> about $600,000, 
> which is usually the case when huge damages are awarded by 
> juries. Bottom 
> line -- we sometimes need protection from thoughtless or 
> negligent parties, 
> and there has never been a better system than ours. Sometimes 
> it goes over 
> the top, but that is better than the alternative.
> Sorry again. It's out of my system now, and I'll get off the soap box.
> Les Landon
> 1962 TR3B TCF644L
> Baton Rouge, LA
> 

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