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Subject: RE: BRG paint

To: ARhodes@compuserve.com, triumphs@Autox.Team.Net, donp@ncweb.com
Subject: Subject: RE: BRG paint
From: r-james@tamu.edu
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 98 12:08:01
Don P. and Tony Rhodes wrote:

[...and my comments are inserted in ALL CAPS FOR 
CLARITY (NOT SHOUTING)]

RAY JAMES


>>ICI has a single layer urethane called "2K" available in accurate colors=
>>The proper BRG for your car is ICI # 2855 and can be mixed by any ICI paint
>>supplier from this number. A local source of ICI paint can be found by
>>calling ICI customer service at 1-800-647-6050.

>>Triumph Racing Green to which you refer is also called "Conifer". It is
>>Triumph code 25, ICI # 3736 and was used on TR4,$A,5,250 and 6's. (Not
>>correct for a TR3), but a very pretty color.

I am not even sure it is correct for a TR4A.  That "Conifer" seems much too
light/minty.  It is clearly different than my original XXX Racing Green
lacquer.

I AM PRESENTLY PAINTING MY 1967 TR-4A IRS WITH A VERY SIMILAR PRODUCT (A SINGLE 
PACK URETHANE FROM SOLO), MINE IS SOLO NUMBER RM 8307, WHICH CORRESPONDS TO 
MFG CODE 25 ( TRIUMPH RACING GREEN OR CONIFER).  IT SELLS FOR $43 /QUART WHERE 
I BUY 
IT.  I HAVE SPRAYED THE INTERIOR OF THE BODY AND INTERIOR OF THE BOOT, PLUS 
INTERIOR AND 
OTHER SURFACES OF BOTH DOORS (EXC. EXTERIOR).  THIS IS NOT A LIGHT/MINTY GREEN. 
 IT IS 
PRETTY DARK, BUT CLEARLY A BRG, IN MY JUDGEMENT.  THIS IS THE COLOR CODE (25) 
THAT 
THE BRG (TRG) TR-4A'S WERE PAINTED IN 1965-69, ACCORDING TO THE BOOK I STUDIED. 
 IT IS
MUCH DARKER THAN THE BRG THAT A 1969 MGB CARRIED, AS I HAVE HAD THESE TWO SIDE 
BY SIDE FOR
COMPARISON.  TR-4's OF DIFFERENT YEARS WILL BE PAINTED WITH DIFFERENT MFG 
CODES, THOUGH, 
NOT ALL ARE THIS CONIFER GREEN.

TO USE THIS PAINT, YOU MUST PUT THE COATS ON VERY WET (ALMOST RUNNING, WERE MY 
INSTRUCTIONS.)
AND IT PRODUCES A VERY NICE SURFACE.  I HAVE NOT YET PAINTED THE EXTERIOR 
(NEARLY READY THO!)
ALSO, DON'T SPRAY IT WHEN THE TEMPERATURE WILL DIP BELOW 60F DURING THE NEXT 
FEW HOURS, OR
(I'M TOLD) YOU WILL NOT BE A HAPPY CAMPER.

I JUST BOUGHT A 1998 FORD WINDSTAR VAN, WHICH IS PAINTED IN A DARK GREEN WHICH 
IS VERY
SIMILAR TO THE COLOR WE ARE DESCRIBING, EXCEPT THE VAN HAS A BIT OF METALLIC 
FLAKE IN IT.
I DON'T RECALL THE NAME OR CODE OF THIS COLOR.

I ALSO NOTE THAT THERE IS AN INTERESTING GREEN FOR SOME OF THE NEW ROVER'S 
WHICH I
SAW IN THE PAINT BOOK WHILE SELECTING THE CODE I USED:  IT IS CALLED (I THINK) 
RACING
GREEN METALLIC, AND IT IS MUCH LIKE THE COLOR ON MY VAN.  IT REALLY TEMPTED ME, 
BUT
I STUCK WITH THE ORIGINAL CODE FOR THE YEAR MODEL.

I REALLY LIKE THIS PAINT.  IT GOES ON VERY EASILY, AND SEEMS TO BE A GOOD 
SELECTION
FOR THE "AMATEUR" (WHICH WAS MY PRIMARY SELECTION CRITERIA.)

BEST REGARDS,

RAY JAMES


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Ray W. James, P.E., Ph.D.
Texas Transportation Institute
Civil Engineering Department
Texas A&M University
College Station, TX 77843
Phone (409)845-7436; Fax (409)845-3410
E-mail: r-james@tamu.edu
Date: 12/7/98   Time: 12:08:01 PM
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