i would be interested in any information mr. bach has to offer,
hmmm...powder coating page instructions on the rebuild site, this
could prove to be interesting...will get with my webmaster when more
complete info comes along...
---Doug Bach wrote:
>
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> Tell you what. I'm leaving early tomorrow on business, and
considering the
> hour, can't fully respond at this time. However, when I return
later in the
> week I'll draft a response and try to provide some guidance on the
subject.
> Believe me, I fully understand your and others interest in doing
your own
> coating, and will attempt to at least help in getting the best
results possible,
> considering the limitations. Fair enough?
>
> Later,
>
> Doug Bach
> '60 TR3A
> '58 Corvette
>
> Gano, Ken wrote:
>
> > Doug:
> >
> > Thank you for your thoughts. I find DIY'er's (my self included)
to be a
> > stubborn lot. Tell us what products might work on a home basis
and what
> > ones to ignore. I, for one, would like to know how to address these
> > problems, rather than being told, flat out, it won't work. I find
the
> > Eastwood system to fills a big need (the ability to immediately do
small
> > jobs in house.) and would like to know all the pitfalls,
limitations and
> > work arounds.
> >
> > The whole of the auto restoration hobby would not be a drop in the
bucket to
> > whole of the finishing industry. The other benefits of being able
to
> > adequately do it at home, at least to me, outweigh the hassle of
being
> > limited to a few powders or one process.
> >
> > I find this list to be a wonderful source of information, and if
you have a
> > particular expertise, I beg of you to share it with us.
> >
> > kengano@advant.com
> > downstate illinois
> > 1959 TR3A TS57756L
> > 1958 Model 10 Sedan TBE9239LDLB
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Doug Bach <db10782@insync.net>
> > To: fred thomas <vafred@erols.com>
> > Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>;
> > british-cars@autox.team.net <british-cars@autox.team.net>
> > Date: Saturday, May 09, 1998 11:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: powder-coat
> >
> > >
> > >fred thomas wrote:
> > >
> > >>>Doug, what com. are you the V.P.?
> > >
> > >Herberts-O'Brien Inc. We produce the coatings, and sell to
applicators,
> > both OEMs
> > >and custom coaters.
> > >
> > >>>I may be incorrect but like most
> > >>>hobbiest when very good products come along with a way of
saving a lot of
> > >>>money I'm all for it. On small auto related items this home kit
is very
> > >>>usefull, and the larger industrial shops don't want this
business anyway.
> > >>>My local shop that I did business with a few years ago charges
100.00 to
> > >>>do any amount of nuts and bolts, their reasoning, they are to
much
> > >>>trouble and if I charge enough people will not bring them to
me, I don't
> > >>>want that business anyway. So where do I take my nuts & bolts
as I do not
> > >>>have 100.00 for a 5.00 job. Yes there is a need for these kits
as well as
> > >>>a place for attitudes like my ex-local shop.
> > >
> > >I understand what you are saying, and do sympathize. However,
I'd guess
> > that the
> > >reason for your interest in powder coatings is related to the
performance
> > and
> > >appearance typically related to powder coating. My point is that
you
> > probably
> > >won't achieve the kind of performance of associated with powder
coatings
> > with a
> > >home application. The actual coating is only one step in the
process.
> > Without
> > >the proper pretreatment and curing conditions powder coatings
won't perform
> > any
> > >better than liquid coatings, and may well provide inferior
performance.
> > Powder
> > >coatings need a clean, properly pretreated (or blasted) substrate
to work
> > well.
> > >Additionally, since these are thermoset coatings, they must be
fully cured
> > to
> > >yield good performance. I wasn't attempting to say that you
absolutely
> > wouldn't
> > >be happy with the results you may get, but that you should be
aware that
> > it's not
> > >just a matter of spraying powder on a part, baking it for a
while, and
> > getting a
> > >finish equal to that off a production line which may represent a
$500,000
> > (for a
> > >small line) or more investment.
> > >
> > >We are very sensitive to the fact that we have made strong
inroads in the
> > >finishing industry based on the performance of powder coatings,
and don't
> > want to
> > >get a bad rap when it's advertised as a process suitable for home
use. We
> > don't
> > >like unhappy customers, and that was the reason for my post.
I've been in
> > the
> > >business for 27 years, and have seen more horror stories than I
like to
> > recall.
> > >
> > >>>Where is your shop located??
> > >
> > >Our headquarters are in Houston, and we also have facilities in
Hilliard,
> > Ohio,
> > >and Monterrey, Mexico. Globally we have 17 plants throughout the
world.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >
> > >Doug Bach
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
>
==
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