Hi Ken,
Tell you what. I'm leaving early tomorrow on business, and considering the
hour, can't fully respond at this time. However, when I return later in the
week I'll draft a response and try to provide some guidance on the subject.
Believe me, I fully understand your and others interest in doing your own
coating, and will attempt to at least help in getting the best results possible,
considering the limitations. Fair enough?
Later,
Doug Bach
'60 TR3A
'58 Corvette
Gano, Ken wrote:
> Doug:
>
> Thank you for your thoughts. I find DIY'er's (my self included) to be a
> stubborn lot. Tell us what products might work on a home basis and what
> ones to ignore. I, for one, would like to know how to address these
> problems, rather than being told, flat out, it won't work. I find the
> Eastwood system to fills a big need (the ability to immediately do small
> jobs in house.) and would like to know all the pitfalls, limitations and
> work arounds.
>
> The whole of the auto restoration hobby would not be a drop in the bucket to
> whole of the finishing industry. The other benefits of being able to
> adequately do it at home, at least to me, outweigh the hassle of being
> limited to a few powders or one process.
>
> I find this list to be a wonderful source of information, and if you have a
> particular expertise, I beg of you to share it with us.
>
> kengano@advant.com
> downstate illinois
> 1959 TR3A TS57756L
> 1958 Model 10 Sedan TBE9239LDLB
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Bach <db10782@insync.net>
> To: fred thomas <vafred@erols.com>
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>;
> british-cars@autox.team.net <british-cars@autox.team.net>
> Date: Saturday, May 09, 1998 11:20 PM
> Subject: Re: powder-coat
>
> >
> >fred thomas wrote:
> >
> >>>Doug, what com. are you the V.P.?
> >
> >Herberts-O'Brien Inc. We produce the coatings, and sell to applicators,
> both OEMs
> >and custom coaters.
> >
> >>>I may be incorrect but like most
> >>>hobbiest when very good products come along with a way of saving a lot of
> >>>money I'm all for it. On small auto related items this home kit is very
> >>>usefull, and the larger industrial shops don't want this business anyway.
> >>>My local shop that I did business with a few years ago charges 100.00 to
> >>>do any amount of nuts and bolts, their reasoning, they are to much
> >>>trouble and if I charge enough people will not bring them to me, I don't
> >>>want that business anyway. So where do I take my nuts & bolts as I do not
> >>>have 100.00 for a 5.00 job. Yes there is a need for these kits as well as
> >>>a place for attitudes like my ex-local shop.
> >
> >I understand what you are saying, and do sympathize. However, I'd guess
> that the
> >reason for your interest in powder coatings is related to the performance
> and
> >appearance typically related to powder coating. My point is that you
> probably
> >won't achieve the kind of performance of associated with powder coatings
> with a
> >home application. The actual coating is only one step in the process.
> Without
> >the proper pretreatment and curing conditions powder coatings won't perform
> any
> >better than liquid coatings, and may well provide inferior performance.
> Powder
> >coatings need a clean, properly pretreated (or blasted) substrate to work
> well.
> >Additionally, since these are thermoset coatings, they must be fully cured
> to
> >yield good performance. I wasn't attempting to say that you absolutely
> wouldn't
> >be happy with the results you may get, but that you should be aware that
> it's not
> >just a matter of spraying powder on a part, baking it for a while, and
> getting a
> >finish equal to that off a production line which may represent a $500,000
> (for a
> >small line) or more investment.
> >
> >We are very sensitive to the fact that we have made strong inroads in the
> >finishing industry based on the performance of powder coatings, and don't
> want to
> >get a bad rap when it's advertised as a process suitable for home use. We
> don't
> >like unhappy customers, and that was the reason for my post. I've been in
> the
> >business for 27 years, and have seen more horror stories than I like to
> recall.
> >
> >>>Where is your shop located??
> >
> >Our headquarters are in Houston, and we also have facilities in Hilliard,
> Ohio,
> >and Monterrey, Mexico. Globally we have 17 plants throughout the world.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Doug Bach
> >
> >
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