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Re: TR5/TR6 Fuel Pump

To: erb@lem.ee.ethz.ch
Subject: Re: TR5/TR6 Fuel Pump
From: Max Blyton <Max.Blyton@airservices.gov.au>
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 18:58:26 +1000
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   Thomas Erb wrote about problems with the fuel pump of his TR5 during hot 
   weather...
   
   
   
   Thomas,
   
   As one who has owned a TR5 PI since new, I can claim wide experience with 
   the Lucas 110 psi fuel pump, which is a common topic of conversation with 
   these cars.
   
   Firstly, listen for the sound of the pump with the ignition turned on.  
   It should be a steady, high pitched whine from the rear mudguard.  If the 
   note is low, or varies in pitch, the pump is not running at full speed.
   
   If the pump speed is OK, you need to check your pressure relief valve 
   (PRV), located under the car on the rear chassis.  It is adjustable (with 
   care) - should deliver 106 - 110 psi.  I have installed a T-piece in the 
   fuel line, with a pressure gauge on the console.  If you have a problem 
   here, come back to me and I will provide more detail.  However, the PI 
   fuel pump is more likely to be the problem.
   
   If your pump is not running at full speed:
   
   1. Service the motor.  Disconnect the battery and clamp the fuel line 
   from the tank.  Undo the two screws retaining the pump motor magnet 
   housing and CAREFULLY withdraw the housing.  Take care not to damage the 
   brush assembly with the armature.  Clean out all the soot - there will be 
   a lot if the pump has been neglected. 
   
   **  If the brushes are badly worn, replace the brush assembly - some 
   windscreen wiper units will fit if you remove the third, "parking" brush.
   
   Check for fuel leaks from the pump into the motor - leaking petrol dries 
   out the motor bearings, causing overheating.  Clean the armature and 
   magnet housing, especially tidy up the commutator and its segment 
   grooves.  Lubricate the armature bearings with light grease and CAREFULLY 
   reassemble.
   
   **  You MUST line up the indicator arrows on the base and the magnet 
   housing, or the pump will run backwards!
   
   2. If the pump is still not running at full speed, your motor stator 
   magnets may have lost strength.  Check the current drawn under load - it 
   should be about 9 amps.  Weak magnets are not repairable.
   
   3. MOST PI pumps overheat in hot weather.  I have fitted a large copper 
   heatsink, made from plumber's copper pipe (75mm dia), slit into a "C" and 
   clamped with large radiator hose clamps around the motor body.  The ends 
   of the pipe are split into strips and flared out like a large transistor 
   heatsink.  You can also fit a 12V computer fan to blow on to the motor.
   It is a good idea to rewire the motor supply line with much heavier wire, 
   the fit a relay.
   
   4.  Finally, if none of these work, fit a Bosch pump - they work well, 
   but are expensive.  Make sure you can attain 110 psi - Bosch K-Jetronic 
   systems work at only 70 psi.
   
   Please tell me how you succeed - I may be able to help further.
   
   Good luck!
   Max Blyton
   1968 TR5 PI  (original owner)
   1980 TR7
   1978 TR7 (Mazda rotary powered)
   AUSTRALIA
   
   
   
   


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