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I think a low float condition would not let it drive fine.
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Many conditions can contribute to idle surging so it starts with a =
process of elimination.
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Systems need to be checked =E2=80=93 air, fuel and spark =E2=80=93 loose =
wire connection, vacuum
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Ron Fraser
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From: Rob Hogan <robertdhogan@gmail.com>=20
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2024 3:18 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
Cc: Stu <sabre2tgr@gmail.com>; Tiger Net <Tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] The latest problem: Surging
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Isn't idle surging typically from a carburetor low float setting?
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On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 11:45=E2=80=AFAM Ron Fraser =
Stu
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Always difficult to troubleshoot remotely.
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You may have to do standard checks on all systems =E2=80=93 air, fuel =
and spark
Alcohol in the fuel can tear up hoses and gaskets
Check to make sure fuel filter is OK
Check for vacuum leaks=20
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My 1st thought =E2=80=93 the fuel level is high
Check the float level and check for any debris in the float bowl
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Remove the air filter and idle engine to see if it is an air flow =
problem.=20
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Hope this helps
Ron Fraser
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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2024 9:57 AM
Subject: [Tigers] The latest problem: Surging
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Ok, so I got the vacuum advance sorted and reset the timing, etc. But =
now there's another issue.
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The car starts and warms up normally, choke opening, temperature gauge =
coming up to the thermostat temp, etc. But then it starts surging at =
idle. Accelerating, driving both seem fine. But when it goes back to =
idle, waiting at a stoplight or something, it starts having these little =
dips, which soon become larger dips, to the point where it stops. It =
restarts right away, then does it again. At a stoplight I have to left =
foot brake so that I can keep my foot on the throttle to keep it alive. =
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Here's a video I shot in the garage as it started to do it after warming =
up. Anybody seen this before or... cured it?
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I think a =
low float condition would not let it drive fine.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Many =
conditions can contribute to idle surging so it starts with a process of =
elimination.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Systems need to be checked =E2=80=93 air, fuel and =
spark =E2=80=93 loose wire connection, vacuum<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> =
Rob Hogan <robertdhogan@gmail.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, =
August 31, 2024 3:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ron Fraser =
<rfraser@bluefrog.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Stu =
<sabre2tgr@gmail.com>; Tiger Net =
<Tigers@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] The latest =
problem: Surging<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Isn't idle =
surging typically from a carburetor low float =
setting?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 11:45=E2=80=AFAM Ron Fraser <<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Stu<o:p></o:=
p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Always =
difficult to troubleshoot remotely.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>You may =
have to do standard checks on all systems =E2=80=93 air, fuel and =
spark<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Alcohol in =
the fuel can tear up hoses and gaskets<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Check to =
make sure fuel filter is OK<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Check for =
vacuum leaks <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>My =
1<sup>st</sup> thought =E2=80=93 the fuel level is high<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Check the =
float level and check for any debris in the float bowl<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Remove the =
air filter and idle engine to see if it is an air flow problem. =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hope this =
helps<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b>=
Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Stu<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 31, 2024 9:57 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
Tiger Net <<a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">Tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> =
[Tigers] The latest problem: Surging<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Ok, so I got the vacuum advance sorted and =
reset the timing, etc. But now there's another =
issue.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>The car starts and warms up normally, choke =
opening, temperature gauge coming up to the thermostat temp, etc. But =
then it starts surging at idle. Accelerating, driving both seem =
fine. But when it goes back to idle, waiting at a stoplight or =
something, it starts having these little dips, which soon become larger =
dips, to the point where it stops. It restarts right away, then =
does it again. At a stoplight I have to left foot brake so that I =
can keep my foot on the throttle to keep it alive. =
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Here's a video I shot in the garage as it =
started to do it after warming up. Anybody seen this before or... =
cured it?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a =
href=3D"https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/0613ys0iegdndjhnjt5a8/AIcza8ouXqEs=
p57qLWSlZOY?rlkey=3Ds9h2q3sal042y9z3t5oav2uwt&dl=3D0" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/0613ys0iegdndjhnjt5a8/AI=
cza8ouXqEsp57qLWSlZOY?rlkey=3Ds9h2q3sal042y9z3t5oav2uwt&dl=3D0</a><o:=
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