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Re: [Tigers] Ethanol Laced Gasoline

To: owain.lloyd@gmail.com, Dave Munroe <dave@munroe.ca>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ethanol Laced Gasoline
From: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 21:46:16 -0400 (EDT)
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In California, all gas contains ethanol year round with a higher concentrat=
ion in winter (I think).
The only real problem I have seen in my Tiger is with my old (1973) 2bbl Ho=
lly carb.
The little conical shaped check valves for the accelator pump get stuck to =
their seats within a
few days of not driving the car.  If I turn on the fuel pump and give the p=
edal a push and then
wait maybe 10 minutes, it un-sticks the valves.  Ok, the real problem is th=
at I don't have a
choke because in CA the weather is mild.  When the engine is cold though, I=
 need to add
extra gas myself with the accelerator pump to get it to start.
Gary
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> On 07/22/2023 2:00 PM PDT Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd@gmail.com> wrote:
> =20
> =20
> what exactly is your concern?  water absorption? or damage to certain rub=
bers and natural materials?  anything that could be damaged by E5 or E10 pr=
obably shouldn't still be in the car anyway.  60 years old fuel hoses and c=
arb seals are not a recipe for reliability.  likewise regular use and not l=
eaving tanks of fuel for months is good advice with or without ethanol.
> =20
> I generally use E5 in all my cars and bikes.  I don't think its ever caus=
ed a problem.
>=20
> On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 10:15=E2=80=AFPM Dave Munroe <dave@munroe.ca mail=
to:dave@munroe.ca> wrote:
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> > Hello from Nova Scotia!
> > =20
> > Classic and antique Car owners in Canada have, unfortunately, recently =
joined the many American enthusiasts who have had to find a way to
> > gas up their vintage cars with ethanol-laced gasoline without damaging =
their fuel systems. Our Federal Government is on an understandable rampage
> > to do everything in its power to help end Climate Change, and this is t=
heir latest effort to jump into the fray. (Whether or not this is a valid o=
r=20
> > questionable strategy is an issue for another time.)
> > =20
> > I am writing to ask if anyone has come up with an additive, (or some ot=
her solution) that can cancel the damage that ethanol does to gasoline=20
> > engines. I have heard that aviation fuel is ethanol free, but there are=
 very few airports here that will sell aviation fuel to non-aircraft owners=
.
> > =20
> > Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated by your Canadian c=
ar enthusiast Friends.
> > =20
> > Many thanks for any help you can provide.
> > =20
> > Dave Munroe, in Nova Scotia
> > Sunbeam Tiger, MGB, and Several vulnerable Motorcycles.
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   In California, all gas contains ethanol year round with a higher concent=
ration in winter (I think).
  </div>=20
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   The only real problem I have seen in my Tiger is with my old (1973) 2bbl=
 Holly carb.
  </div>=20
  <div class=3D"default-style">
   The little conical shaped check valves for the accelator pump get stuck =
to their seats within a
  </div>=20
  <div class=3D"default-style">
   few days of not driving the car.&nbsp; If I turn on the fuel pump and gi=
ve the pedal a push and then
  </div>=20
  <div class=3D"default-style">
   wait maybe 10 minutes, it un-sticks the valves.&nbsp; Ok, the real probl=
em is that I don't have a
  </div>=20
  <div class=3D"default-style">
   choke because in CA the weather is mild.&nbsp; When the engine is cold t=
hough, I need to add
  </div>=20
  <div class=3D"default-style">
   extra gas myself with the accelerator pump to get it to start.
  </div>=20
  <div class=3D"default-style">
   Gary
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   &nbsp;
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    On 07/22/2023 2:00 PM PDT Owain Lloyd &lt;owain.lloyd@gmail.com&gt; wro=
te:
   </div>=20
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    &nbsp;
   </div>=20
   <div>
    &nbsp;
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    what exactly is your concern?&nbsp; water absorption? or damage to cert=
ain rubbers and natural materials?&nbsp; anything that could be damaged by =
E5 or E10 probably shouldn't still be in the car anyway.&nbsp; 60 years old=
 fuel hoses and carb seals are not a recipe for reliability.&nbsp; likewise=
 regular use and not leaving tanks of fuel for months is good advice with o=
r without ethanol.=20
    <div>
     &nbsp;
    </div>=20
    <div>
     I generally use E5 in all my cars and bikes.&nbsp; I don't think its&n=
bsp;ever caused a problem.
    </div>=20
   </div>=20
   <br>=20
   <div class=3D"gmail_quote">=20
    <div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">
     On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 10:15=E2=80=AFPM Dave Munroe &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:dave@munroe.ca">dave@munroe.ca</a>&gt; wrote:
    </div>=20
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       Hello from Nova Scotia!
      </div>=20
      <div class=3D"gmail_default">
       &nbsp;
      </div>=20
      <div class=3D"gmail_default">
       Classic and antique Car owners in Canada have, unfortunately, recent=
ly joined the many American enthusiasts&nbsp;who have had to find a way to
      </div>=20
      <div class=3D"gmail_default">
       gas up their vintage cars with ethanol-laced gasoline without damagi=
ng&nbsp;their fuel systems. Our Federal Government is on an understandable =
rampage
      </div>=20
      <div class=3D"gmail_default">
       to do everything in its power to help end Climate Change, and&nbsp;t=
his is their latest effort to&nbsp;jump into the fray. (Whether or not this=
 is a valid or&nbsp;
      </div>=20
      <div class=3D"gmail_default">
       questionable strategy is an issue for another time.)
      </div>=20
      <div class=3D"gmail_default">
       &nbsp;
      </div>=20
      <div class=3D"gmail_default">
       I am writing to ask if anyone has come up with an additive, (or some=
 other solution) that can cancel the damage that ethanol does to gasoline&n=
bsp;
      </div>=20
      <div class=3D"gmail_default">
       engines. I have heard that aviation fuel is ethanol free, but there =
are very few airports here that will&nbsp;sell aviation fuel to non-aircraf=
t owners.
      </div>=20
      <div class=3D"gmail_default">
       &nbsp;
      </div>=20
      <div class=3D"gmail_default">
       Any help or suggestions&nbsp;would be greatly appreciated by your Ca=
nadian car enthusiast&nbsp;Friends.
      </div>=20
      <div class=3D"gmail_default">
       &nbsp;
      </div>=20
      <div class=3D"gmail_default">
       Many thanks for any help you can provide.
      </div>=20
      <div class=3D"gmail_default">
       &nbsp;
      </div>=20
      <div class=3D"gmail_default">
       Dave Munroe, in Nova Scotia
      </div>=20
      <div class=3D"gmail_default">
       Sunbeam Tiger, MGB, and Several vulnerable Motorcycles.
      </div>=20
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