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Thanks for all of the replies. I have a mostly stock engine (with
Edelbrock intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator. I have a temperature
gauge mounted on the intake and the engine seems to run a little over 200
at idle but I haven't had any problems while driving the car. My problem
right now is that I took the car out one afternoon when the temperature was
over 100 degrees and when I pulled into the garage and shut the engine off
it puked some water onto the floor. The temp gauge was showing around 250
degrees at that point.
I already have the lower shroud on my radiator and I am making some horn
opening covers today. I will also look at blocking off the area below the
radiator. I have read all of the articles that people have referred to and
I believe I have an airflow problem at low speeds. So I was just looking
for pusher fan recommendations at this point.
The best advice is to probably not drive in 100+ degree weather.
Thanks,
Joe Brown
On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33=E2=80=AFAM LARRY PAULICK via Tigers <
tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
> I made a custom lower fan shroud, as one does not exist for the stock
> tiger, fan shroud. I did smoke test with the car at idle and the air come=
s
> through the radiator down towards the ground and circles back through the
> radiator again. So essentially you're just recycling hot air from your ow=
n
> radiator. It works.
>
> On Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM, Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think michael hit the nail on the head. first need to know is it
> overheating when stationary / moving slowly or at speed?
>
> a pusher fan will only help at very low speed or when stopped. and spal
> is the go to brand. still need the horn holes and gap between cross
> member and rad blocked. cardboard and zip ties does the trick quickly an=
d
> can be replaced with a more permanent solution later if you want. also
> need a fan shroud.
>
> personally i've never needed the electric pusher fan because i have a
> small 13" flex fan on the water pump pulley. that creates enough pull
> through the radiator at idle.
>
> if its overheating at more than 30/40mph then its another problem entirel=
y
> and there are a variety of other things to check.
>
> in my case its fuel boiling in the carb under certain conditions (slowing
> down after running fast in really high ambient temps above a particular
> altitude) rather than coolant temp which is the problem. there are a bun=
ch
> of things i could do there, most importantly a carb heat shield, but
> i've only suffered from it once.
>
> one thing i've found very useful for debugging cooling issues in the tige=
r
> over the years is having a glass gano filter in the rad top hose. at lea=
st
> you can see how the coolant is circulating which helps with thermostat or
> water pump issues and if you're used to how it should look, even how
> blocked the radiator is.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Jim B via Tigers <tigers@autox.te=
am.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I=E2=80=99ve been reading about cooling issues with tigers for more that=
a decade
>> (much less than some reading this) blocking horn holes, pusher fans, and
>> shrouds etc etc. Entire studies have been done on this issue. Just check
>> STOA, CAT or any club site. All good reads! I think the first place to
>> start is knowing what the actual engine team really is. We all know that
>> the original temp guage can be off. The other thing is: as a dyed in the
>> wool ford guy, 185 degrees is the optimal engine temp. But, Ford engines
>> can get to 195-200 degrees easily and that is not necessarily a bad thin=
g.
>> Yes, I put a pusher in mine only because I had one. I=E2=80=99m not real=
ly sure is
>> does anything. My original guage can show 225-230 on a hot day (humidit=
y
>> plays a bitg role) but never has pucked out fluid. The design of the sho=
uld
>> is an issue. It lets hot air from the engine compartment to get under th=
e
>> radiator. Many, many, =E2=80=98fixes=E2=80=99 that can be done. However,=
on a hot low
>> humidity day.. well good luck. JMO
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Allan Ballard <aballard@ix.netcom.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The article includes several suggestions.
>>
>> One of them is to seal the missing section of the stock fan shroud at th=
e
>> bottom.
>>
>> A list member offered a piece he fabricated.
>>
>> I obtained one and here are a couple of pictures. I hope to fit it later
>> this year.
>>
>> Even a few degrees of cooling will be worth the effort.
>>
>> Allan Ballard
>> Mk1a Tiger
>>
>> <image0.jpeg><image1.jpeg>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2023, at 10:57 PM, Jay Laifman <jay.laifman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> =EF=BB=BF
>> Have you looked at this cooling suggestions?
>> http://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveLaifmanVala=
nce1.asp
>>
>> It works great in Southern California heat.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:42=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com=
> wrote:
>>
>>> My Tiger can't keep up with this 100 degree weather in Texas. I've rea=
d
>>> through the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King and I will make some of=
the
>>> suggested modifications. They listed two different pusher electric fan=
s in
>>> the article but both of them are no longer available.
>>>
>>> So, has anybody recently installed a pusher fan? If so, what part
>>> numbers?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Joe Brown
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for all of the replies.=C2=A0 I have a mostly stock=
engine (with Edelbrock intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator.=C2=A0 I have=
a temperature gauge mounted on the intake and the engine seems to run a li=
ttle over 200 at idle but I haven't had any problems while driving the =
car.=C2=A0 My problem right now is that I took the car out one afternoon wh=
en the temperature was over 100 degrees and when I pulled into the garage a=
nd shut the engine off it puked some water onto the floor.=C2=A0 The temp g=
auge was showing around 250 degrees at that point.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div><br></di=
v><div>I already have the lower shroud on my radiator and I am making some =
horn opening covers today.=C2=A0 I will also look at blocking off the area =
below the radiator.=C2=A0 I have read all of the articles that people have =
referred to and I believe I have an airflow problem at low speeds.=C2=A0 So=
I was just looking for pusher fan recommendations at this point.=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0</div><div><br></div><div>The best advice is to probably not drive in 10=
0+ degree weather.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Joe Brown</di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33=E2=80=AFAM LARRY PAULICK via Tigers <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>I made a cus=
tom lower fan shroud, as one does not exist for the stock tiger, fan shroud=
. I did smoke test with the car at idle and the air comes through the radia=
tor down towards the ground and circles back through the radiator again. So=
essentially you're just recycling hot air from your own radiator.=C2=
=A0 It works.=C2=A0<br><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Jul 19, 2=
023, at 2:03 AM, Owain Lloyd <<a href=3D"mailto:owain.lloyd@gmail.com"; t=
arget=3D"_blank">owain.lloyd@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div di=
r=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:normal=
;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:=
start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;text-decoration:none">I think michael hit the nail on the head.=C2=A0 fi=
rst need to know is it overheating when stationary / moving slowly or at sp=
eed?<div><br></div><div>a pusher fan will only help at very low speed or wh=
en stopped.=C2=A0 and spal is the go to brand.=C2=A0 =C2=A0still need the h=
orn holes and gap between cross member and rad blocked.=C2=A0 cardboard and=
zip ties does the trick quickly and can be replaced with a more permanent=
=C2=A0solution later if you want.=C2=A0 also need a fan shroud.<div><br></d=
iv><div>personally i've never needed the electric pusher fan because i =
have a small 13" flex fan on the water pump pulley.=C2=A0 that creates=
enough pull through the radiator at idle.</div><div><br></div><div>if its=
=C2=A0overheating at more than 30/40mph then its another problem entirely a=
nd there are a variety=C2=A0of other things to check.</div></div><div><br><=
/div><div>in my case its fuel boiling in the carb under certain conditions=
=C2=A0(slowing down after running fast in really high ambient temps above a=
particular altitude) rather than coolant temp which is the problem.=C2=A0 =
there are a bunch of things i could do there, most importantly a carb heat =
shield, but i've=C2=A0only suffered from it once.</div><div><br></div><=
div>one thing i've found very useful for debugging cooling issues in th=
e tiger over the years is having a glass gano filter in the rad top hose.=
=C2=A0 at least you can see how the coolant is circulating which helps with=
thermostat or water pump issues and if you're used to how it should lo=
ok, even how blocked the radiator is.</div><div><br></div></div><br style=
=3D"font-family:Times-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-c=
aps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-inde=
nt:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decorat=
ion:none"><div class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman;font-=
size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter=
-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-=
space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Jim B via Tigers &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.t=
eam.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div><font size=3D"4">I=E2=80=99ve been reading=C2=A0about cooling i=
ssues with tigers for more that a decade (much less than some reading this)=
blocking horn holes, pusher fans, and shrouds etc etc. Entire studies have=
been done on=C2=A0this issue. Just check STOA, CAT or any club site. All g=
ood reads! I think the first place to start is=C2=A0knowing what the actual=
=C2=A0engine team really is. We all know that the original temp guage can b=
e off. The other thing is: as a dyed in the wool ford guy, 185 degrees is t=
he optimal engine temp. But, Ford engines can get to 195-200 degrees easily=
and that is not=C2=A0necessarily a bad thing. Yes, I put a pusher in mine =
only because I had one. I=E2=80=99m not really sure is does=C2=A0anything. =
My=C2=A0original guage can show 225-230 on =C2=A0a hot day (humidity plays =
a bitg role) but never has pucked out fluid. The design of the should is an=
=C2=A0issue. It lets hot air from the engine compartment to get under the r=
adiator. Many, many, =E2=80=98fixes=E2=80=99 that can be=C2=A0done. However=
, on a hot low humidity day.. well good luck. JMO</font><div><div><br><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Jul 18, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Allan Ballard <<a=
href=3D"mailto:aballard@ix.netcom.com"; target=3D"_blank">aballard@ix.netco=
m.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;fon=
t-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;lett=
er-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;whit=
e-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inl=
ine">The article includes several suggestions.</span><div style=3D"font-fam=
ily:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;fon=
t-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-tr=
ansform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br>=
</div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;=
font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:s=
tart;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0p=
x;text-decoration:none">One of them is to seal the missing section of the s=
tock fan shroud at the bottom.</div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;fon=
t-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;lett=
er-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;whit=
e-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br></div><div style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-cap=
s:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent=
:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoratio=
n:none">A list member offered a piece he fabricated.</div><div style=3D"fon=
t-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:norma=
l;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;te=
xt-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"=
><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:no=
rmal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-al=
ign:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spaci=
ng:0px;text-decoration:none">I obtained one and here are a couple of pictur=
es. I hope to fit it later this year.</div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvet=
ica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:4=
00;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:no=
ne;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br></div><div=
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-varia=
nt-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-=
indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-dec=
oration:none">Even a few degrees of cooling will be worth the effort.</div>=
<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-v=
ariant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;t=
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2px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spaci=
ng:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:=
normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">Allan Ballard</div><div style=
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s:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent=
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span><span id=3D"m_8164983089506367030cid:1896cb123c143c689202"><image1.=
jpeg></span><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 18, 2023, at 10:57 PM, Jay La=
ifman <<a href=3D"mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">jay.la=
ifman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">Have you looked at thi=
s cooling suggestions? =C2=A0<a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/St=
eveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveLaifmanValance1.asp" target=3D"_blank">http://tig=
ersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveLaifmanValance1.asp</a><=
div><br></div><div>It works great in Southern California heat.</div></div><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue,=
Jul 18, 2023 at 3:42=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown <<a href=3D"mailto:jbbrown198=
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r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">My Tig=
er can't keep up with this 100 degree weather in Texas.=C2=A0 I've =
read through the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King and I will make some o=
f the suggested modifications.=C2=A0 They listed two different pusher elect=
ric fans in the article but both of them are no longer available.<div><br><=
/div><div>So, has anybody recently installed a pusher fan?=C2=A0 If so, wha=
t part numbers?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Joe Brown</div><=
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