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To: "Dr. T. Y. McDowell" <tym2@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger shocks
From: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 31 May 2023 13:23:15 -0500
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You got a good deal.  I had to pay $218.

Thanks,
Joe Brown

On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 3:29=E2=80=AFPM Dr. T. Y. McDowell <tym2@comcast.ne=
t> wrote:

> I live in western Massachusetts.  A couple of years ago I had Ferrara
> Spring, Co. in Springfield, MA re-arch the springs for my Mk1A to raise t=
he
> rear end approximately two (2) inches.  They charged me a whopping $72.00
> for what is now a Tiger looking like it's ready to pounce!
>
> Tym McDowell
>
> On 05/30/2023 12:36 PM EDT Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I googled "leaf spring re-arching" and found an old-school place in San
> Antonio (Ace Spring Service, about 1.5 hours from me).  They mostly deal
> with heavy trucks but they can handle any leaf spring.  I told them I
> needed to lift the back of the car about 1.5" and they basically separate=
d
> the leaves and put them in a big press.  My old springs are liable to sta=
rt
> sagging again in a few years because of the old metal.  I asked the guy a=
t
> Ace about re-tempering the springs and they don't do that anymore.  He sa=
id
> that back in the days before they had the more modern giant presses they
> used to have a forge and they would heat up the metal and then beat it in=
to
> shape with sledge hammers.
>
> The only source I've found for new leaf springs are some of the suppliers
> in the UK.   Tom Hall doesn't supply them anymore.  I would like to know =
if
> anybody knows of a US supplier.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
>
> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:39=E2=80=AFAM Jay Laifman <jay.laifman@gmail.c=
om>
> wrote:
>
> Where and how did you get the rear springs de-arched?  I'd like to lower
> my rear springs on the Alpine a little.
>
> On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 1:03=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>=
 wrote:
>
> I think I started this thread a few weeks ago.  My car started to bottom
> out and I finally figured out that I had two blown shocks and my
> leaf springs were sagging.  I got the springs re-arched and started looki=
ng
> for shocks.  I have a car show coming up this weekend, so time was a
> factor.  I looked at Koni and Spax but the lead times were way too long. =
So
> I decided to go with KYB.  Looking through the different forums I saw
> different part numbers and I finally settled on part number  KG5562 for t=
he
> rears and KG4616 for the fronts. The rear shocks were a perfect fit.  On
> the front shocks I needed to press out the steel bushing spacer on the ol=
d
> shocks and insert them into the KYBs.  Super easy and they also fit reall=
y
> well.  The whole car now sits a little higher and the handling is a milli=
on
> times better.
>
> Thanks for everybody's input.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
>
> On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 9:11=E2=80=AFPM Lionel Bohrer <lcbohrer@comcast.n=
et>
> wrote:
>
> The Spax catalog in the classic section shows a listing for the Sunbeam
> Tiger 64-68, in the $150 range per shock front and rear.  They appear to =
be
> single adjustable so rebound and compression change together.
>
>
>
> I got Spax shocks for my car back in the 60=E2=80=99s.  Replaced a set of=
 Koni
> shocks.  Didn=E2=80=99t like the damping characteristics quite as well, b=
ut the
> ability to adjust on the car was revolutionary.  Soften up, drive to an
> autocross or cross country, get to the event, turn them up and compete,
> post event set down for the street and drive home.  Many competition cars
> weren=E2=80=99t trailered in those years.  A great ability to accommodate=
 street
> comfort and autocross performance.  Or to adjust to your individual
> preferences.  My set are still on the car, which exited regular competiti=
on
> in the late 90=E2=80=99s, but my two SCCA autocross national championship=
s in 1974
> and 1975 were with the Spax shocks.  Would be worth exploring if you need
> shocks.  They also might custom make a set of double adjustable shocks if
> you were interested.
>
>
>
> Bud Bohrer
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">You got a good deal.=C2=A0 I had to pay $218.<div><br></di=
v><div>Thanks,</div><div>Joe Brown</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 3:29=E2=80=
=AFPM Dr. T. Y. McDowell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tym2@comcast.net";>tym2@comca=
st.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left=
:1ex"><u></u>

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  =20
=20
 <div>
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">I live in western M=
assachusetts.=C2=A0 A couple of years ago I had Ferrara Spring, Co. in Spri=
ngfield, MA re-arch the springs for my Mk1A to raise the rear end approxima=
tely two (2) inches.=C2=A0 They charged me a whopping $72.00 for what is no=
w a Tiger looking like it&#39;s ready to pounce!=C2=A0</span>
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
   =C2=A0
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Tym McDowell</span>
  </div>=20
  <blockquote type=3D"cite">=20
   <div>
    On 05/30/2023 12:36 PM EDT Joe Brown &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jbbrown1980@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jbbrown1980@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
   </div>=20
   <div>
    =C2=A0
   </div>=20
   <div>
    =C2=A0
   </div>=20
   <div dir=3D"ltr">
    I googled &quot;leaf spring re-arching&quot; and found an old-school pl=
ace in San Antonio (Ace Spring Service, about 1.5 hours from me).=C2=A0 The=
y mostly deal with heavy trucks but they can handle any leaf spring.=C2=A0 =
I told them I needed to lift the back of the car about 1.5&quot; and they b=
asically separated the leaves and put them in a big press.=C2=A0 My old spr=
ings are liable to start sagging again in a few years because of the old me=
tal.=C2=A0 I asked the guy at Ace about re-tempering the springs and they d=
on&#39;t do that anymore.=C2=A0 He said that back in the days before they h=
ad the more modern giant presses they used to have a forge and they would h=
eat up the metal and then beat it into shape with sledge hammers.=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=20
    <div>
     =C2=A0
    </div>=20
    <div>
     The only source I&#39;ve found for new leaf springs are some of the su=
ppliers in the UK.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Tom Hall doesn&#39;t supply them anymore.=C2=
=A0 I would like to know if anybody knows of a US supplier.
    </div>=20
    <div>
     =C2=A0
    </div>=20
    <div>
     Thanks,
    </div>=20
    <div>
     Joe Brown
    </div>=20
   </div>=20
   <br>=20
   <div class=3D"gmail_quote">=20
    <div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">
     On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:39=E2=80=AFAM Jay Laifman &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:jay.laifman@gmail.com" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank">jay.laifman@=
gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
    </div>=20
    <blockquote>=20
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      Where and how did you get the rear springs de-arched?=C2=A0 I&#39;d l=
ike to lower my rear springs on the Alpine a little.
     </div>=20
     <br>=20
     <div class=3D"gmail_quote">=20
      <div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">
       On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 1:03=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank">jbbrown1980@g=
mail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
      </div>=20
      <blockquote>=20
       <div dir=3D"ltr">
        I think I started this thread a few weeks ago.=C2=A0 My car started=
 to bottom out and I finally figured out that I had two blown shocks and my=
 leaf=C2=A0springs were sagging.=C2=A0 I got the springs re-arched and star=
ted looking for shocks.<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;times new roman&quo=
t;,serif">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif"> I have=
 a car show coming up this weekend, so time was a factor.=C2=A0 I looked at=
 Koni and Spax but the lead times were way too long. So I decided to go wit=
h KYB.=C2=A0 Looking through the different forums I saw different part numb=
ers and I finally settled on part number=C2=A0 KG5562 for the rears and KG4=
616 for the fronts. The rear shocks were a perfect fit.=C2=A0 On the front =
shocks I needed to press out the steel bushing spacer on the old shocks and=
 insert them into the KYBs.=C2=A0 Super easy and they also fit really well.=
=C2=A0 The whole car now sits a little higher and the handling is a million=
 times better.=C2=A0=C2=A0</span>=20
        <div>
         <span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span>
        </div>=20
        <div>
         <span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif">Thanks for everybody&=
#39;s input.</span>
        </div>=20
        <div>
         <span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span>
        </div>=20
        <div>
         <span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif">Thanks,</span>
        </div>=20
        <div>
         <span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif">Joe Brown=C2=A0</span=
>
        </div>=20
       </div>=20
       <br>=20
       <div class=3D"gmail_quote">=20
        <div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">
         On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 9:11=E2=80=AFPM Lionel Bohrer &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:lcbohrer@comcast.net"; rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank">lcbohre=
r@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:
        </div>=20
        <blockquote>=20
         <div>=20
          <div>=20
           <div>=20
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">The Spax catalog in the classic section =
shows a listing for the Sunbeam Tiger 64-68, in the $150 range per shock fr=
ont and rear.=C2=A0 They appear to be single adjustable so rebound and comp=
ression change together.</p>=20
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>=20
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I got Spax shocks for my car back in the=
 60=E2=80=99s.=C2=A0 Replaced a set of Koni shocks.=C2=A0 Didn=E2=80=99t li=
ke the damping characteristics quite as well, but the ability to adjust on =
the car was revolutionary.=C2=A0 Soften up, drive to an autocross or cross =
country, get to the event, turn them up and compete, post event set down fo=
r the street and drive home.=C2=A0 Many competition cars weren=E2=80=99t tr=
ailered in those years.=C2=A0 A great ability to accommodate street comfort=
 and autocross performance.=C2=A0 Or to adjust to your individual preferenc=
es.=C2=A0 My set are still on the car, which exited regular competition in =
the late 90=E2=80=99s, but my two SCCA autocross national championships in =
1974 and 1975 were with the Spax shocks.=C2=A0 Would be worth exploring if =
you need shocks.=C2=A0 They also might custom make a set of double adjustab=
le shocks if you were interested.</p>=20
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>=20
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bud Bohrer</p>=20
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>=20
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsof=
t.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank">Mail</a> =
for Windows</p>=20
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>=20
           </div>=20
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