Re: [Tigers] rear disc brake

[GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net>]

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Well...
Discs are better or else why would all new cars have discs?
Basically, they cool better.  In a Tiger with discs on the rear, they will =
have stable proportioning.
And the pads can run (slip) right on the disc, even when adjusted to the ma=
x, drums
have play in the pedal.
Yeah, aluminum drums might have a slight weight advantage, maybe not when y=
ou add the
cooling fins, self adjusters, springs, etc.  Now, there are light weight al=
uminum calipers too.
Gary


>     On 11/02/2022 7:01 PM Jay Laifman via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
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>     I agree that drums are fine and that people over state the benefit of=
 discs.  For me, it was simply because my self adjusting versions were a di=
saster.  I did everything I could to get all new parts, install correctly, =
etc., and they just never worked right.  So I thought I'd go with the discs=
 on the Alpine for the why the heck not.  I just haven't gotten to it yet.
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>     On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 3:51 PM Theo Smit <tsmit@shaw.ca mailto:tsmit@=
shaw.ca > wrote:
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>         > >         I would guess that one could do some careful parts-bi=
n engineering and end up with a rear drum setup that weighed significantly =
less than any equally effective rear disc setup. Datsun 240Z's came with al=
uminum rear drums (still with the cast iron liner, of course) and it would =
not be a huge effort to adapt the backplates so that all that stuff would b=
olt right on. You would probably even get automatic adjusters in the bargai=
n. But rear discs have that certain je ne sais quoi...
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> >         Cheers,
> >         Theo
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igers@autox.team.net >
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> >         Cc: "tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net mailto:tigers@autox.team.ne=
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> >         Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2022 2:27:39 PM
> >         Subject: Re: [Tigers] rear disc brake
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> >         I've often wondered about the "need" to go to rear discs on the=
 Tiger, as the front brakes are asked to do pretty much all the work on our=
 cars. I've never had issues with the rear drums in very hard use (with dec=
ent high temp linings). The fronts did require some work ;)
> >         Mike
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> >         From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd@gmail.com mailto:owain.lloyd@gma=
il.com >
> >         To: Clyde Mclaughlin <clydemclaughlin618@gmail.com mailto:clyde=
mclaughlin618@gmail.com >
> >         Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger <tigers@autox.team.net mailto:tigers@=
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> >         Sent: Wed, Nov 2, 2022 1:05 pm
> >         Subject: Re: [Tigers] rear disc brake
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> >         What=E2=80=99s wrong with drums?  Just fed up of adjusting them=
?
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> >         Il giorno mer 2 nov 2022 alle 16:43 Clyde Mclaughlin <clydemcla=
ughlin618@gmail.com mailto:clydemclaughlin618@gmail.com > ha scritto:
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> >             > > >             has anyone recently tried the fiat 124 re=
ar conversion, most things I have read were from years ago. my interest is =
in maintaining use of 13" wheels and I have a set of the fiat caliper/brack=
ets..and car is used for street use only, limited auto cross
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   Well...
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   Discs are better or else why would all new cars have discs?
   <br>
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   Basically, they cool better.&nbsp; In a Tiger with discs on the rear, th=
ey will have stable proportioning.
   <br>
  </div>
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   And the pads can run (slip) right on the disc, even when adjusted to the=
 max, drums
   <br>
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   have play in the pedal.
   <br>
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   Yeah, aluminum drums might have a slight weight advantage, maybe not whe=
n you add the=20
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   cooling fins, self adjusters, springs, etc.&nbsp; Now, there are light w=
eight aluminum calipers too.
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   Gary
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    On 11/02/2022 7:01 PM Jay Laifman via Tigers &lt;tigers@autox.team.net&=
gt; wrote:
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    I agree that drums are fine and that people over state the benefit of d=
iscs.&nbsp; For me, it was simply because my self adjusting versions were a=
 disaster.&nbsp; I did everything I could to get all new parts, install cor=
rectly, etc., and they just never worked right.&nbsp; So I thought I'd go w=
ith the discs on the Alpine for the why the heck not.&nbsp; I just haven't =
gotten to it yet.
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     On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 3:51 PM Theo Smit &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tsmit@s=
haw.ca">tsmit@shaw.ca</a>&gt; wrote:
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t; color: #000000;">
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        I would guess that one could do some careful parts-bin engineering =
and end up with a rear drum setup that weighed significantly less than any =
equally effective rear disc setup. Datsun 240Z's came with aluminum rear dr=
ums (still with the cast iron liner, of course) and it would not be a huge =
effort to adapt the backplates so that all that stuff would bolt right on. =
You would probably even get automatic adjusters in the bargain. But rear di=
scs have that certain je ne sais quoi...
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        Cheers,
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        Theo
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        <strong>From: </strong>"Michael Wood via Tigers" &lt;<a target=3D"_=
blank" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noopener">tigers@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt;
        <br><strong>To: </strong>"owain lloyd" &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" hre=
f=3D"mailto:owain.lloyd@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noopener">owain.lloyd@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;, "Clyde Mclaughlin" &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:clydemcl=
aughlin618@gmail.com" rel=3D"noopener">clydemclaughlin618@gmail.com</a>&gt;
        <br><strong>Cc: </strong>"tigers" &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"=
mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noopener">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt=
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        <br><strong>Sent: </strong>Wednesday, November 2, 2022 2:27:39 PM
        <br><strong>Subject: </strong>Re: [Tigers] rear disc brake
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10pt; color: black;">
          I've often wondered about the "need" to go to rear discs on the T=
iger, as the front brakes are asked to do pretty much all the work on our c=
ars. I've never had issues with the rear drums in very hard use (with decen=
t high temp linings). The fronts did require some work ;)
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10pt; color: black;">
          Mike
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          <br>-----Original Message-----
          <br>From: Owain Lloyd &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:owa=
in.lloyd@gmail.com" rel=3D"noopener">owain.lloyd@gmail.com</a>&gt;
          <br>To: Clyde Mclaughlin &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:=
clydemclaughlin618@gmail.com" rel=3D"noopener">clydemclaughlin618@gmail.com=
</a>&gt;
          <br>Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"ma=
ilto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noopener">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          <br>Sent: Wed, Nov 2, 2022 1:05 pm
          <br>Subject: Re: [Tigers] rear disc brake
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            What=E2=80=99s wrong with drums?&nbsp; Just fed up of adjusting=
 them?
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              Il giorno mer 2 nov 2022 alle 16:43 Clyde Mclaughlin &lt;<a t=
arget=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:clydemclaughlin618@gmail.com"; shape=3D"rect=
" rel=3D"noopener">clydemclaughlin618@gmail.com</a>&gt; ha scritto:
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                has anyone recently tried the fiat 124 rear conversion, mos=
t things I have read were from years ago. my interest is in maintaining use=
 of 13" wheels and I have a set of the fiat caliper/brackets..and car is us=
ed for street use only, limited auto cross
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