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These comments about the painted stud and nut has revived some shadowy memor=
ies. I am thinking that maybe that is what mine was. Though on that red eB=
ay one, the screws look too tall/domed and shiny to me. =20
> On May 14, 2022, at 8:52 AM, Douglas Lyle via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.ne=
t> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> There is some truth to the hammer on the firewall. I can tell you that t=
he Shelby Prototype Tiger still has the indented hammer marks in the firewal=
l from when it went back to Shelby to get a 289 installed. I can also tell=
you George Boskoff hated that modification and told me I needed to fix it b=
efore taking the car to Tigers United. He didn't want anyone thinking that=
it was him making that modification as he would have done it with a little m=
ore finesse.
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> Jere Kirkpatrick - installation of a HiPo 289 in the Shelby Sunbeam Tiger P=
rototype.
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> Jere Kirkpatrick - installation of a HiPo 289 in the Shelby Sunbeam Tige..=
.
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> On Saturday, May 14, 2022, 08:33:15 AM PDT, Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers@au=
tox.team.net> wrote:
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> When one considers the hinge is chrome, not body color it stands to=20
> reason that the body and trunk (boot) were painted and then the three=20
> pieces assembled. IF..., in fact the stud is painted at the factory it=20
> might be that the topside was painted, the hinge attached by the stud=20
> only and then hung to paint the underside. Just a guess but at least a=20
> possibility (not trying to create a big hammer on the firewall urban=20
> legend here).
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> On 5/14/2022 7:22 AM, Allan Ballard via Tigers wrote:
> > I'm guessing the purpose of a flat screw is to avoid damage being inflic=
ted upon the rubber trunk seal which is immediately below.
> > =20
> > Whether it should be painted or not, my sparse few examples are not reli=
able to say.
> > =20
> > It occurs to me that leaving it unpainted makes practical sense given it=
s contact with the rubber trunk seal, which would rub off the paint over tim=
e.
> > =20
> > =20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Lindner
> > Sent: May 14, 2022 8:36 AM
> > To: Ron Fraser
> > Cc: Allan Ballard ,
> > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
> > =20
> > Just to confuse the matter more=E2=80=A6there is a supposedly all-origin=
al survivor for sale on eBay. In the photo of the trunk it shows the hinge s=
crews as NOT painted=E2=80=A6but the studs are painted.
> > =20
> > I know the claim of all original could be suspect, but thought it was wo=
rth sharing.
> > =20
> > Jim
> > =20
> > =20
> > =20
> > =20
> > Sent from my iPad
> > =20
> >> On May 14, 2022, at 8:05 AM, Ron Fraser wrote:
> >>
> >> Allan
> >> The photo evidence indicates that the Parts List is not correct.
> >>
> >> The fasteners should be natural color, not painted.
> >> The trunk lid would be painted 1st, paint cured then installed.
> >>
> >> The March 1963 shows this screw in the Series I & II section for the tr=
unk
> >> hinge
> >> 2203571 Screw, 1/4" UNF. X 1/2" Special
> >> This screw is also listed for the Series III & IV trunk hinge but the w=
ord
> >> Special is not there.
> >>
> >> This screw # does not show up in the ZY section of the Parts List.
> >>
> >> Your pictures look like a large headed Round Screw much like a license p=
late
> >> screw.
> >>
> >> I know my trunk hinge fasteners are not original so no help there.
> >>
> >> Ron Fraser
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Tigers On Behalf Of Allan Ballard via
> >> Tigers
> >> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 1:39 AM
> >> To: Jay Laifman
> >> Cc: Tiger List List
> >> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
> >>
> >> These are going on my Forest
> >> Green Mk1a Tiger:
> >>
> >>
> >>
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se comments about the painted stud and nut has revived some shadowy memories=
. I am thinking that maybe that is what mine was. Though on that=
red eBay one, the screws look too tall/domed and shiny to me. </div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 14, 2022, at 8:52 AM, D=
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iger still has the indented hammer marks in the firewall from when it went b=
ack to Shelby to get a 289 installed. I can also tell you George=
Boskoff hated that modification and told me I needed to fix it before takin=
g the car to Tigers United. He didn't want anyone thinking that i=
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Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<div><div dir=3D"ltr">When one considers the hinge is chrome=
, not body color it stands to <br clear=3D"none">reason that the body and tr=
unk (boot) were painted and then the three <br clear=3D"none">pieces assembl=
ed. IF..., in fact the stud is painted at the factory it <br clear=3D"none">=
might be that the topside was painted, the hinge attached by the stud <br cl=
ear=3D"none">only and then hung to paint the underside. Just a guess but at l=
east a <br clear=3D"none">possibility (not trying to create a big hammer on t=
he firewall urban <br clear=3D"none">legend here).<br clear=3D"none"><br cle=
ar=3D"none">On 5/14/2022 7:22 AM, Allan Ballard via Tigers wrote:<br clear=3D=
"none">> I'm guessing the purpose of a flat screw is to avoid damage bein=
g inflicted upon the rubber trunk seal which is immediately below.<br clear=3D=
"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> Whether it should be painted or n=
ot, my sparse few examples are not reliable to say.<br clear=3D"none">>&n=
bsp; <br clear=3D"none">> It occurs to me that leaving it unpainted make=
s practical sense given its contact with the rubber trunk seal, which would r=
ub off the paint over time.<br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none"=
>> <br clear=3D"none">> -----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"=
none">> From: James Lindner<br clear=3D"none">> Sent: May 14, 2022 8:3=
6 AM<br clear=3D"none">> To: Ron Fraser<br clear=3D"none">> Cc: Allan B=
allard ,<br clear=3D"none">> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fa=
steners<br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> Just to confus=
e the matter more=E2=80=A6there is a supposedly all-original survivor for sa=
le on eBay. In the photo of the trunk it shows the hinge screws as NOT paint=
ed=E2=80=A6but the studs are painted.<br clear=3D"none">> <br clea=
r=3D"none">> I know the claim of all original could be suspect, but thoug=
ht it was worth sharing.<br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">&g=
t; Jim<br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> <br clea=
r=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">>=
; Sent from my iPad<br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">>>=
; On May 14, 2022, at 8:05 AM, Ron Fraser wrote:<br clear=3D"none">>><=
br clear=3D"none">>> Allan<br clear=3D"none">>> The photo eviden=
ce indicates that the Parts List is not correct.<br clear=3D"none">>><=
br clear=3D"none">>> The fasteners should be natural color, not painte=
d.<br clear=3D"none">>> The trunk lid would be painted 1st, paint cure=
d then installed.<br clear=3D"none">>><br clear=3D"none">>> The M=
arch 1963 shows this screw in the Series I & II section for the trunk<br=
clear=3D"none">>> hinge<br clear=3D"none">>> 2203571 Screw, 1/4=
" UNF. X 1/2" Special<br clear=3D"none">>> This screw is also listed f=
or the Series III & IV trunk hinge but the word<br clear=3D"none">>&g=
t; Special is not there.<br clear=3D"none">>><br clear=3D"none">>&g=
t; This screw # does not show up in the ZY section of the Parts List.<br cle=
ar=3D"none">>><br clear=3D"none">>> Your pictures look like a la=
rge headed Round Screw much like a license plate<br clear=3D"none">>> s=
crew.<br clear=3D"none">>><br clear=3D"none">>> I know my trunk h=
inge fasteners are not original so no help there.<br clear=3D"none">>>=
<br clear=3D"none">>> Ron Fraser<br clear=3D"none">>><br clear=3D=
"none">>><br clear=3D"none">>> -----Original Message-----<br cle=
ar=3D"none">>> From: Tigers On Behalf Of Allan Ballard via<br clear=3D=
"none">>> Tigers<br clear=3D"none">>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 20=
22 1:39 AM<br clear=3D"none">>> To: Jay Laifman<br clear=3D"none">>=
> Cc: Tiger List List<br clear=3D"none">>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Co=
rrect trunk hinge fasteners<br clear=3D"none">>><br clear=3D"none">>=
;> These are going on my Forest<br clear=3D"none">>> Green Mk1a Tig=
er:<br clear=3D"none">>><br clear=3D"none">>><br clear=3D"none">=
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