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Re: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400

To: Will Seay <Tigers@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400
From: Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:44:52 -0800
Cc: Tiger Server <tigers@autox.team.net>
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The factory tee is also a size reducer, that=E2=80=99s=20
why it=E2=80=99s still there.
The way to tell what engine it is is to pull
the starter and look at the casting number.
A 260 or a 302 5.0 can be dressed the same.
The only matching number is a build date
stamped into a small boss on the block in
front of the driver side head.
Engine swaps in Tigers are almost universal.
Gary=20


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 10, 2022, at 11:09 AM, Will Seay via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>=
 wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> The blocked-off Tee is probably part of the adaptation that went on when t=
he engine got a 4BBL hi rise and lost its carb spacer.  The engine is painte=
d red: note the block in this picture and the oil pan in another.  The engin=
e has likely been removed from the car at some time.  There's at least a 50%=
 chance that the engine was swapped for another (non numbers matching) at th=
is time.  Valve covers are likely original but an original number on a valve=
 cover does not a numbers-matching engine make.
>=20
> Will - 382001570=20
> Tigers@embarqmail.com
>=20
>=20
>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 12:07 PM Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers@autox.t=
eam.net> wrote:
>> Thanks :)=20
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>=20
>>> On Jan 10, 2022, at 11:05 AM, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Yes, that appears to be the factory =E2=80=9CT=E2=80=9D fitting.
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> Ron Fraser
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Allan Ballard v=
ia Tigers
>>> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2022 11:01 AM
>>> To: D or G at sbc <orr4sale@sbcglobal.net>
>>> Cc: J Clark <icanhandyman@yahoo.com>; tigers@autox.team.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> Interesting ad and pictures.
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> One shows the heater hose on the passenger side. The hose has a =E2=80=9C=
T=E2=80=9D fitting a few inches from the firewall.
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> A hose is connected to the =E2=80=9CT.=E2=80=9D
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> Is this a factory fitting?
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> In the picture the hose connected to the =E2=80=9CT=E2=80=9D isn=E2=80=99=
t connected and is capped.
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> <image001.jpg>
>>>=20
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Jan 10, 2022, at 10:37 AM, D or G at sbc via Tigers <tigers@autox.tea=
m.net> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Is this it? David
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/d/vacaville-1965-sunbeam-tiger/7430=
188284.html
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> On Sunday, January 9, 2022, 10:30:29 PM PST, Gary <garywinblad@comcast.n=
et> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> Not much notice!
>>>=20
>>> You should send photos.  An original drive
>>>=20
>>> train is probably rare and numbers matching=20
>>>=20
>>> isn=E2=80=99t as important as most cars.  What is real
>>>=20
>>> important is if it=E2=80=99s a converted Alpine and
>>>=20
>>> if it has rust and if it=E2=80=99s complete.  $18k is in
>>>=20
>>> line with a real Tiger that needs total
>>>=20
>>> restoration.
>>>=20
>>> Gary
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Jan 9, 2022, at 9:36 PM, J Clark via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BF
>>>=20
>>> I'm going back again tomorrow to either trailer it home... or forfeit 50=
0 bucks.
>>>=20
>>> Price is 18 grand. Can any one tell me what numbers to look for on the e=
ngine, trans and rearend?
>>>=20
>>> Thanks!
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">The factory tee is also a size reducer, tha=
t=E2=80=99s&nbsp;<div>why it=E2=80=99s still there.</div><div>The way to tel=
l what engine it is is to pull</div><div>the starter and look at the casting=
 number.</div><div>A 260 or a 302 5.0 can be dressed the same.</div><div>The=
 only matching number is a build date</div><div>stamped into a small boss on=
 the block in</div><div>front of the driver side head.</div><div>Engine swap=
s in Tigers are almost universal.</div><div>Gary&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><=
div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 10, 2022, at 11:09 AM, Will Seay via Tigers &lt;=
tigers@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"font-size:small">The blocked-off Tee is probably part of the ada=
ptation that went on when the engine got a 4BBL hi rise and lost its carb sp=
acer.&nbsp; The engine is painted red: note the block in this picture and th=
e oil pan in another.&nbsp; The engine has likely been removed from the car a=
t some time.&nbsp; There's at least a 50% chance that the engine was swapped=
&nbsp;for another (non numbers matching) at this time.&nbsp; Valve covers ar=
e likely original but an original number on a valve cover does not a numbers=
-matching engine make.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:=
small"><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartm=
ail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Will - 382001570 <br><a href=3D"mai=
lto:Tigers@embarqmail.com" target=3D"_blank">Tigers@embarqmail.com</a></div>=
</div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 12:07 PM Allan Ballard via Tigers &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"=
>Thanks :)&nbsp;<br><br><div id=3D"gmail-m_-6269522660522860592AppleMailSign=
ature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jan 10, 2=
022, at 11:05 AM, Ron Fraser &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yes, that appears t=
o be the factory =E2=80=9CT=E2=80=9D fitting.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ron Fraser<u></u><u=
></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><div><div style=3D"b=
order-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rg=
b(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Tige=
rs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">ti=
gers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan Ballard via Ti=
gers<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 10, 2022 11:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> D or G a=
t sbc &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:orr4sale@sbcglobal.net"; target=3D"_blank">orr4sa=
le@sbcglobal.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> J Clark &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:icanhan=
dyman@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">icanhandyman@yahoo.com</a>&gt;; <a href=3D=
"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a><b=
r><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400<u></u><=
u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">Interesting ad and pictures.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">One sh=
ows the heater hose on the passenger side. The hose has a =E2=80=9CT=E2=80=9D=
 fitting a few inches from the firewall.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">A h=
ose is connected to the =E2=80=9CT.=E2=80=9D<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>Is this a factory fitting?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">In the picture t=
he hose connected to the =E2=80=9CT=E2=80=9D isn=E2=80=99t connected and is c=
apped.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></=
u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">&lt;ima=
ge001.jpg&gt;<u></u><u></u></p><div id=3D"gmail-m_-6269522660522860592AppleM=
ailSignature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<u></u><u></u></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><br>On Jan 10, 2=
022, at 10:37 AM, D or G at sbc via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@auto=
x.team.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u>=
</u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><d=
iv><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-=
family:Helvetica,sans-serif">Is this it? David<u></u><u></u></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Helve=
tica,sans-serif"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><a hre=
f=3D"https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/d/vacaville-1965-sunbeam-tiger/743=
0188284.html" target=3D"_blank">https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/d/vacav=
ille-1965-sunbeam-tiger/7430188284.html</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p></=
div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-fam=
ily:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,san=
s-serif"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p></div></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-6269=
522660522860592ydpe6ba7f46yahoo_quoted_2068837820"><div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(38,40,42)">On Sunday, January 9, 2022, 10:30:29 PM PST, Gary &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank">garywinblad@comcast.n=
et</a>&gt; wrote: <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38=
,40,42)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40=
,42)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p></div><div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-62695226=
60522860592ydpe6ba7f46yiv9092318051"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Not=
 much notice!<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Yo=
u should send photos.&nbsp; An original drive<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvet=
ica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">train is probably rare and numbers match=
ing&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=
isn=E2=80=99t as important as most cars.&nbsp; What is real<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font=
-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">important is if it=E2=80=99=
s a converted Alpine and<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:=
rgb(38,40,42)">if it has rust and if it=E2=80=99s complete. &nbsp;$18k is in=
<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">line with=
 a real Tiger that needs total<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42)">restoration.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-seri=
f;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Gary<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fa=
mily:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></=
p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helv=
etica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Sent from my iPhone<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-f=
amily:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><br><br><u></u><u></u></span=
></p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-famil=
y:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">On Jan 9, 2022, at 9:36 PM, J Cl=
ark via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank=
">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></blockquote>=
</div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42)">=EF=BB=BF<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div id=3D"gmail-=
m_-6269522660522860592ydpe6ba7f46yiv9092318051yqt80370"><div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;col=
or:rgb(38,40,42)">I'm going back again tomorrow to either trailer it home...=
 or forfeit 500 bucks.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(=
38,40,42)">Price is 18 grand. Can any one tell me what numbers to look for o=
n the engine, trans and rearend?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;=
color:rgb(38,40,42)">Thanks!<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb=
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