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Re: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Sway bar

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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Sway bar
From: Michael Wood via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 17:20:52 +0000 (UTC)
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Should have added, the TMC rear sway bars did get an LAT number way down th=
e road, but were never a Rootes or factory offered piece. In any case, at t=
hat time (and now), the sanctioning body we were running with, SCCA, deemed=
 LAT options as aftermarket, not factory. So, semantics, perhaps.
In any case, there are a lot of moving pieces (literally lol) in any suspen=
sion discussion. I'm just sharing my experience, which includes lots of tes=
ting and SCCA national level autocross success=C2=A0 :)





-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Wood via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
To: MTaylor@ea.com <MTaylor@ea.com>; garywinblad@comcast.net <garywinblad@c=
omcast.net>; tigers@autox.team.net <tigers@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2021 10:07 am
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Sway bar

No, my car had less HP at the time (260 with 4bbl and headers) and stock fr=
ont suspension. We all ran together in SCCA F Stock.=C2=A0 But, I did have =
KONI's, optimized alignment, limited slip and bolt on TMC traction bars. Th=
at all changed when I went to the 302/5spd combo further down the road. Als=
o, I don't believe a rear bar or the motors your Dad and Stan were running =
were factory options and none of us were technically stock legal (but, the =
faster Camaro and Mustang drivers didn't care lol) But I might be misrememb=
ering, it was a long time ago :)
No doubt, a rear bar can be made to work correctly, just look at Buck's rac=
e car. Of course, they also run BIG front springs and bar! The real point I=
'm making is that installing an off the shelf Addco bar on a stock suspensi=
on car has not been optimal in my experience.=C2=A0=C2=A0



-----Original Message-----
From: Taylor, Matthew <MTaylor@ea.com>
To: Michael Wood <mwood24020@aol.com>; garywinblad@comcast.net <garywinblad=
@comcast.net>; tigers@autox.team.net <tigers@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2021 9:49 am
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Sway bar

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I was just comparing two stock Tigers with factory options.=C2=A0 I think y=
ou were a bit more modified and Stan runs a 1=E2=80=9D front sway bar.=C2=
=A0 I don=E2=80=99t think he has a rear bar but I=E2=80=99m not positive.
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And Gary, the set up isn=E2=80=99t that hard.=C2=A0 100% stock rear springs=
.=C2=A0 Slightly stiffer front springs.
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Matthew
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From: Michael Wood <mwood24020@aol.com>=20
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 8:41 AM
To: garywinblad@comcast.net; Taylor, Matthew <MTaylor@ea.com>; tigers@autox=
.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Sway bar
=20
Yep, Terry and Stan were the bogey when I first started autocrossing my Tig=
er, both of them were fantastic drivers with tons of experience, But, I end=
ed up getting past them both and I think set up had a lot to do with it. Ef=
fectively giving up rear grip to make the car more neutral or "tossable" I =
don't think makes sense. But, end of day, what you (big "you") are most com=
fortable with in terms of set up is key and, you're right, for most drivers=
 that will be more important in terms of time on course than ultimate grip =
:)

-----Original Message-----
From: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net>
To: Taylor, Matthew <MTaylor@ea.com>; Taylor, Matthew via Tigers <tigers@au=
tox.team.net>; Michael Wood <mwood24020@aol.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2021 8:21 am
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Sway bar
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I have seen your dad(a long time ago), him and his car are VERY fast.
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It seems to be set up very hard like a go-cart.=C2=A0 The rear bar makes it=
 loose and he steers it (wags the tail) around the cones with power and his=
 posi.
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Very impressive and fast.
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Gary=C2=A0
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On 09/30/2021 10:07 AM Taylor, Matthew via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
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I don=E2=80=99t know about =E2=80=9Ctotal grip capability,=E2=80=9D but you=
 have seen my dad drive his Tiger with the rear sway bar and it works great=
.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve driven and autocrossed Tigers that are set up properly=
 with or without the rear sway bar and they both handle great but different=
.=C2=A0 A good driver can adjust to the differences and take advantages of =
the differences, but I doubt one is much faster than the other.=C2=A0 It=E2=
=80=99s possible that one could be faster than the other depending on the t=
ype of course, but it would be fractions of a second based on my autocross =
experiences.
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Matthew
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 =C2=A0
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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Michael Wood via T=
igers
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 6:28 PM
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Sway bar
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=C2=A0
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Like said, any rear bar on a Tiger is an aftermarket solution...and I've ye=
t to see one (not counting custom fabricated with heim joints, correct angl=
es, adjustability etc used in conjunction with front end improvements) that=
 made any sense or was additive to total grip capability.=C2=A0
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=C2=A0
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Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Martin via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
To: Tiger List Serve <tigers@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Sep 29, 2021 1:54 pm
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Sway bar
=20
Was a rear sway bar originally fitted on the Tiger or was it a LAT option o=
r not?=C2=A0 Size, mounting points? Either way could someone post some pict=
ures of how they were suppose to be mounted and installed?
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=C2=A0
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Thanks
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Joel Martin
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lack;"><div style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10=
pt; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-seri=
f; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Should have added, the TMC rear sway bar=
s did get an LAT number way down the road, but were never a Rootes or facto=
ry offered piece. In any case, at that time (and now), the sanctioning body=
 we were running with, SCCA, deemed LAT options as aftermarket, not factory=
. So, semantics, perhaps.</div><div style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: a=
rial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;"><br></div><div s=
tyle=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: bl=
ack;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:=
 10pt; color: black;">In any case, there are a lot of moving pieces (litera=
lly lol) in any suspension discussion. I'm just sharing my experience, whic=
h includes lots of testing and SCCA national level autocross success&nbsp; =
:)</div><div style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 1=
0pt; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
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e: 10pt; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans=
-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;"><br><br>-----Original Message-----<=
br>From: Michael Wood via Tigers &lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;<br>To: MTayl=
or@ea.com &lt;MTaylor@ea.com&gt;; garywinblad@comcast.net &lt;garywinblad@c=
omcast.net&gt;; tigers@autox.team.net &lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;<br>Sent=
: Thu, Sep 30, 2021 10:07 am<br>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Sway bar<b=
r><br></div><div id=3D"yiv5822410889"><div><div style=3D"font-size: 10pt; f=
ont-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"=
font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: black;">=
<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; c=
olor: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 10pt; color: black;">No, my car had less HP at the time (260 wit=
h 4bbl and headers) and stock front suspension. We all ran together in SCCA=
 F Stock.&nbsp; But, I did have KONI's, optimized alignment, limited slip a=
nd bolt on TMC traction bars. That all changed when I went to the 302/5spd =
combo further down the road. Also, I don't believe a rear bar or the motors=
 your Dad and Stan were running were factory options and none of us were te=
chnically stock legal (but, the faster Camaro and Mustang drivers didn't ca=
re lol) But I might be misremembering, it was a long time ago :)</div><div =
style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color:=
 black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-=
size: 10pt; color: black;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"font-fami=
ly: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;" data-mce-=
style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color:=
 black;">No doubt, a rear bar can be made to work correctly, just look at B=
uck's race car. Of course, they also run BIG front springs and bar! The rea=
l point I'm making is that installing an off the shelf Addco bar on a stock=
 suspension car has not been optimal in my experience.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><di=
v style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; colo=
r: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; fon=
t-size: 10pt; color: black;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv5822=
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lack;"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">-----Origin=
al Message-----<br clear=3D"none">From: Taylor, Matthew &lt;MTaylor@ea.com&=
gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: Michael Wood &lt;mwood24020@aol.com&gt;; garywinb=
lad@comcast.net &lt;garywinblad@comcast.net&gt;; tigers@autox.team.net &lt;=
tigers@autox.team.net&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2021 9:49 am=
<br clear=3D"none">Subject: RE: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Sway bar<br clear=3D"no=
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<p class=3D"yiv5822410889MsoNormal">I was just comparing two stock Tigers w=
ith factory options.&nbsp; I think you were a bit more modified and Stan ru=
ns a 1=E2=80=9D front sway bar.&nbsp; I don=E2=80=99t think he has a rear b=
ar but I=E2=80=99m not positive.</p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv5822410889MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv5822410889MsoNormal">And Gary, the set up isn=E2=80=99t that=
 hard.&nbsp; 100% stock rear springs.&nbsp; Slightly stiffer front springs.=
</p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv5822410889MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv5822410889MsoNormal">Matthew</p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv5822410889MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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<div class=3D"yiv5822410889yqt9710400912" id=3D"yiv5822410889yqtfd50253"><p=
 class=3D"yiv5822410889MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Michael Wood &lt;mwood24020@=
aol.com&gt; <br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 30, 2021 8:41 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> garywinblad@comcast.net; Taylor, Matthew &lt;MTaylor@ea.com&gt;;=
 tigers@autox.team.net<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Sway bar</p>=20
</div></div><div class=3D"yiv5822410889yqt9710400912" id=3D"yiv5822410889yq=
tfd92895">
</div></div><div class=3D"yiv5822410889yqt9710400912" id=3D"yiv5822410889yq=
tfd33419">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv5822410889MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-m=
ce-style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; fon=
t-family: sans-serif; color: black;">Yep, Terry and Stan were the bogey whe=
n I first started autocrossing my Tiger, both of them were fantastic driver=
s with tons of experience,
 But, I ended up getting past them both and I think set up had a lot to do =
with it. Effectively giving up rear grip to make the car more neutral or "t=
ossable" I don't think makes sense. But, end of day, what you (big "you") a=
re most comfortable with in terms
 of set up is key and, you're right, for most drivers that will be more imp=
ortant in terms of time on course than ultimate grip :)<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: GARY WINBLAD &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rec=
t" ymailto=3D"mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mai=
lto:garywinblad@comcast.net">garywinblad@comcast.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"no=
ne">
To: Taylor, Matthew &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"re=
ct" ymailto=3D"mailto:MTaylor@ea.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:MTay=
lor@ea.com">MTaylor@ea.com</a>&gt;; Taylor, Matthew via Tigers &lt;<a rel=
=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tige=
rs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;; Michael Wood &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener nor=
eferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:mwood24020@aol.com"; target=3D"_bl=
ank" href=3D"mailto:mwood24020@aol.com";>mwood24020@aol.com</a>&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none">
Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2021 8:21 am<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Sway bar</span></p>=20
</div>
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<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv5822410889MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; fon=
t-family: sans-serif; color: black;">I have seen your dad(a long time ago),=
 him and his car are VERY fast.
</span></p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv5822410889MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; fon=
t-family: sans-serif; color: black;">It seems to be set up very hard like a=
 go-cart.&nbsp; The rear bar makes it loose and he steers it (wags the tail=
) around the cones with power and his posi.
</span></p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv5822410889MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; fon=
t-family: sans-serif; color: black;">Very impressive and fast.
</span></p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv5822410889MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; fon=
t-family: sans-serif; color: black;">Gary&nbsp;
</span></p>=20
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<blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;" data-mce-sty=
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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv5822410889MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; fon=
t-family: sans-serif; color: black;">On 09/30/2021 10:07 AM Taylor, Matthew=
 via Tigers &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymai=
lto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:tiger=
s@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
</span></p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv5822410889MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; fon=
t-family: sans-serif; color: black;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv5822410889MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; fon=
t-family: sans-serif; color: black;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv5822410889msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; fon=
t-family: sans-serif; color: black;">I don=E2=80=99t know about =E2=80=9Cto=
tal grip capability,=E2=80=9D but you have seen my dad drive his Tiger with=
 the rear sway bar and it works great.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ve driven and autocr=
ossed
 Tigers that are set up properly with or without the rear sway bar and they=
 both handle great but different.&nbsp; A good driver can adjust to the dif=
ferences and take advantages of the differences, but I doubt one is much fa=
ster than the other.&nbsp; It=E2=80=99s possible that
 one could be faster than the other depending on the type of course, but it=
 would be fractions of a second based on my autocross experiences.</span></=
p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv5822410889msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; fon=
t-family: sans-serif; color: black;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv5822410889msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; fon=
t-family: sans-serif; color: black;">Matthew</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv5822410889msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; fon=
t-family: sans-serif; color: black;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
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<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt=
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0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"yiv5822410889msonormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0p=
t; font-family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.=
0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: black;">From:</span></strong><span sty=
le=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: black;"> Tigers =
&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailt=
o:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:tigers-bo=
unces@autox.team.net">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
<strong><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif;" data-mce-style=3D"font-fam=
ily: sans-serif;">On Behalf Of </span></strong>Michael Wood via Tigers<br c=
lear=3D"none">
<strong><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif;" data-mce-style=3D"font-fam=
ily: sans-serif;">Sent:</span></strong> Wednesday, September 29, 2021 6:28 =
PM<br clear=3D"none">
<strong><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif;" data-mce-style=3D"font-fam=
ily: sans-serif;">To:</span></strong> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferre=
r" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank=
" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>
tigers@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none">
<strong><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif;" data-mce-style=3D"font-fam=
ily: sans-serif;">Subject:</span></strong> Re: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Sway bar=
</span></p>=20
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<p class=3D"yiv5822410889msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; fon=
t-family: sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv5822410889msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; fon=
t-family: sans-serif; color: black;">Like said, any rear bar on a Tiger is =
an aftermarket solution...and I've yet to see one (not counting custom fabr=
icated with heim joints, correct angles,
 adjustability etc used in conjunction with front end improvements) that ma=
de any sense or was additive to total grip capability.&nbsp;</span></p>=20
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<p class=3D"yiv5822410889msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; fon=
t-family: sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
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<p class=3D"yiv5822410889msonormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-m=
ce-style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; fon=
t-family: sans-serif; color: black;">Mike<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: Joel Martin via Tigers &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" sh=
ape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" hre=
f=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none">
To: Tiger List Serve &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"r=
ect" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mai=
lto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Wed, Sep 29, 2021 1:54 pm<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Sway bar</span></p>=20
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<p class=3D"yiv5822410889msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-fam=
ily: serif; color: black;">Was a rear sway bar originally fitted on the Tig=
er or was it a LAT option or not?&nbsp; Size, mounting points? Either way c=
ould someone post some pictures of
 how they were suppose to be mounted and installed?</span><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size: 10.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"=
font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: black;"></span></p>=20
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<p class=3D"yiv5822410889msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-fam=
ily: serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; f=
ont-family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt;=
 font-family: sans-serif; color: black;"></span></p>=20
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<p class=3D"yiv5822410889msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-fam=
ily: serif; color: black;">Thanks</span><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; f=
ont-family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt;=
 font-family: sans-serif; color: black;"></span></p>=20
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<p class=3D"yiv5822410889msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-fam=
ily: serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; f=
ont-family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt;=
 font-family: sans-serif; color: black;"></span></p>=20
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<p class=3D"yiv5822410889msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-fam=
ily: serif; color: black;">Joel Martin</span><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0=
pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10=
.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: black;"></span></p>=20
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