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Re: [Tigers] Power steering

To: Bob Wanty <bobwanty@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Power steering
From: "Larry E. Paulick via Tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 18:11:26 -0400
Cc: Lance Beauchamp <blance598@gmail.com>, Tigers Den <Tigers@autox.team.net>
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Great, any pics, details, driving impressions, costs?

> On Aug 18, 2020, at 8:55 AM, Bob Wanty <bobwanty@gmail.com> wrote:
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> My Tiger has the Armstrong unit.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Aug 18, 2020, at 1:16 AM, Larry E. Paulick via Tigers =
<tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
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>> =EF=BB=BFI have never seen any photos, actual cost and part # or =
year/make/etc of elec power steering, only comments. Better yet a =
comprehensive article, such as those contained in Tigers United, would =
be great.  Does anyone have these they can post?
>>=20
>> Thanks
>>=20
>> Larry
>>=20
>>> On Aug 16, 2020, at 9:56 PM, Buck Trippel via Tigers =
>>>=20
>>> I had a Vaxhual electric setup from the UK installed in one of out =
Tigers. It was great around town or on a curvey road. (you can dial in =
the amount of =E2=80=9Cboost=E2=80=9D you want.=20
>>> =20
>>> Michael is very correct in that the installation was very neat, even =
in the LHD version I had. (about the only mod needed was to trim one of =
the metal defroster ducts under the driver=E2=80=99s side of the dash.)=20=

>>> =20
>>> However I did not like the power steering unit on the open road. I =
never was able to get it to track as well as the stock setup on the =
highway. I added all the caster I could (even wedged the cross member) =
but I was never happy with it. It was just too twitchy on straight roads =
and I do a lot of long distance highway driving in our Tigers. After an =
8-hour drive I just found myself working too much. I couldn=E2=80=99t =
relax. I pulled it out & went back to the stock setup. The EPS unit is =
now resting quietly on some shelf in the garage. On the other hand, if I =
were driving daily on twisty mountain roads I=E2=80=99d go back to it in =
a second.
>>> =20
>>> Buck Trippel
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
Tigers
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 6:38 PM
>>> To: Lance Beauchamp <blance598@gmail.com =
>>> Cc: Tiger Club. Submission <tigers@autox.team.net =
>>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Power steering
>>> =20
>>> There are several ways to introduce power steering to the Tiger,
>>> =20
>>> In the UK and Australia people use the vaxhual/holden/opel astra =
electric setup mounted to a donor alpine top section of the steering =
column, very neat mounts under the dash and keeps all the stock =
components from the firewall forward..
>>> =20
>>> There are also several people who have used hydraulic setups from =
mazda MX5 (miata) and also some subarus... these though require a change =
in rack
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 11:23, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers =
>>>> Really , there is NO power steering unit that could be retrofitted =
to the tiger. The older I get the harder it steers when going  slow.=20
>>>>   Beau
>>>> =20
>>>> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Great, any pics, details, driving impressions, costs?<br =
class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Aug 18, 2020, at 8:55 AM, Bob Wanty &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:bobwanty@gmail.com"; class=3D"">bobwanty@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">My Tiger has the Armstrong =
unit.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Sent from =
my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Aug 18, 2020, at 1:16 AM, Larry E. Paulick =
via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" =
content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D"">I have never seen any =
photos, actual cost and part # or year/make/etc of elec power steering, =
only comments. Better yet a comprehensive article, such as those =
contained in Tigers United, would be great. &nbsp;Does anyone have these =
they can post?<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Thanks</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Larry<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Aug 16, 2020, at 9:56 PM, =
Buck Trippel via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-family: Times-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">I had a Vaxhual electric =
setup from the UK installed in one of out Tigers. It was great around =
town or on a curvey road. (you can dial in the amount of =E2=80=9Cboost=E2=
=80=9D you want.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Michael is very correct in =
that the installation was very neat, even in the LHD version I had. =
(about the only mod needed was to trim one of the metal defroster ducts =
under the driver=E2=80=99s side of the dash.)<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">However I did not like the =
power steering unit on the open road. I never was able to get it to =
track as well as the stock setup on the highway. I added all the caster =
I could (even wedged the cross member) but I was never happy with it. It =
was just too twitchy on straight roads and I do a lot of long distance =
highway driving in our Tigers. After an 8-hour drive I just found myself =
working too much. I couldn=E2=80=99t relax. I pulled it out &amp; went =
back to the stock setup. The EPS unit is now resting quietly on some =
shelf in the garage. On the other hand, if I were driving daily on =
twisty mountain roads I=E2=80=99d go back to it in a second.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Buck Trippel<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"border-style: solid none =
none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); =
padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">On Behalf =
Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>michael king =
via Tigers<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Sunday, August 16, 2020 =
6:38 PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Lance Beauchamp &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:blance598@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">blance598@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Cc:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tiger=
 Club. Submission &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Tigers] Power =
steering<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">There are =
several ways to introduce power steering to the Tiger,<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">In =
the UK and Australia people use the vaxhual/holden/opel astra electric =
setup mounted to a donor&nbsp;alpine top section of the =
steering&nbsp;column, very neat mounts under the dash and keeps all the =
stock components from the firewall forward..<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">There =
are also several people who have used hydraulic&nbsp;setups from mazda =
MX5 (miata) and also some subarus... these though require a change in =
rack<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 11:23, Lance Beauchamp =
via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: =
blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"border-style: none =
none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, =
204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: =
0in;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">Really , there is NO power steering unit that =
could be retrofitted to the tiger. The older I get the harder it steers =
when going&nbsp; slow.&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
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