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In my case I thought I=E2=80=99d be nice to my wife and we put the power =
steering in her Tiger. It was and interesting experiment but =
we=E2=80=99ve moved on.
=20
Mike, you=E2=80=99re right about the ways that steering can be screwed =
up. Nearly twenty years ago I had the SCF race Tiger a foot off the =
ground on a lift. John Morton walked over and =E2=80=9Cfelt=E2=80=9D the =
steering. Everything in the suspension was new and I thought I had it =
about as perfect as possible. John burst my balloon when he said. =
=E2=80=9CIt=E2=80=99s pretty stiff. I don=E2=80=99t know if I could feel =
the tire patch.=E2=80=9D=20
=20
After he left we got to work. I felt the steering and John was right. =
There was some friction there. So I started to pull the just rebuilt =
rack. I had started to loosen one side and decided I wanted to =
=E2=80=9Ccalibrate=E2=80=9D my =E2=80=9Cfeel=E2=80=9D before going too =
far. I wiggled the steering wheel and it was totally free -perfect! So I =
tightened the rack back down and the stiffness returned. I quickly =
realized that the rack mounts we not quite in the same plain. Dan =
Walters came up with the fix. We took a long but fine flat hand file and =
used one mount as the guide while we filed on the opposite side. We had =
it dead flat in ten minutes. Tightened the rack back and all was good.
=20
Buck
=20
From: Michael Wood <mwood24020@aol.com>=20
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 6:59 PM
To: bucktrippel@verizon.net; michael.s.king@gmail.com; =
blance598@gmail.com
Cc: Tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Power steering
=20
Buck, you might agree, better to address the issues which lead to a need =
for power steering rather than throw boost at it... ;)
=20
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Buck Trippel via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net =
To: 'michael king' <michael.s.king@gmail.com =
Sent: Sun, Aug 16, 2020 6:57 pm
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Power steering
I had a Vaxhual electric setup from the UK installed in one of out =
Tigers. It was great around town or on a curvey road. (you can dial in =
the amount of =E2=80=9Cboost=E2=80=9D you want.=20
=20
Michael is very correct in that the installation was very neat, even in =
the LHD version I had. (about the only mod needed was to trim one of the =
metal defroster ducts under the driver=E2=80=99s side of the dash.)=20
=20
However I did not like the power steering unit on the open road. I never =
was able to get it to track as well as the stock setup on the highway. I =
added all the caster I could (even wedged the cross member) but I was =
never happy with it. It was just too twitchy on straight roads and I do =
a lot of long distance highway driving in our Tigers. After an 8-hour =
drive I just found myself working too much. I couldn=E2=80=99t relax. I =
pulled it out & went back to the stock setup. The EPS unit is now =
resting quietly on some shelf in the garage. On the other hand, if I =
were driving daily on twisty mountain roads I=E2=80=99d go back to it in =
a second.
=20
Buck Trippel
=20
=20
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
Tigers
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 6:38 PM
Cc: Tiger Club. Submission <tigers@autox.team.net =
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Power steering
=20
There are several ways to introduce power steering to the Tiger,
=20
In the UK and Australia people use the vaxhual/holden/opel astra =
electric setup mounted to a donor alpine top section of the steering =
column, very neat mounts under the dash and keeps all the stock =
components from the firewall forward..
=20
There are also several people who have used hydraulic setups from mazda =
MX5 (miata) and also some subarus... these though require a change in =
rack
=20
=20
=20
On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 11:23, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers =
Really , there is NO power steering unit that could be retrofitted to =
the tiger. The older I get the harder it steers when going slow.=20
Beau
=20
=20
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>In my case =
I thought I=E2=80=99d be nice to my wife and we put the power steering =
in her Tiger. It was and interesting experiment but we=E2=80=99ve moved =
on.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Mike, you=E2=80=99re right about the ways that =
steering can be screwed up. Nearly twenty years ago I had the SCF race =
Tiger a foot off the ground on a lift. John Morton walked over and =
=E2=80=9Cfelt=E2=80=9D the steering. Everything in the suspension was =
new and I thought I had it about as perfect as possible. John burst my =
balloon when he said. =E2=80=9CIt=E2=80=99s pretty stiff. I =
don=E2=80=99t know if I could feel the tire patch.=E2=80=9D =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>After he left we got to work. I felt the steering and =
John was right. There was some friction there. So I started to pull the =
just rebuilt rack. I had started to loosen one side and decided I wanted =
to =E2=80=9Ccalibrate=E2=80=9D my =E2=80=9Cfeel=E2=80=9D before going =
too far. I wiggled the steering wheel and it was totally free -perfect! =
So I tightened the rack back down and the stiffness returned. I quickly =
realized that the rack mounts we not quite in the same plain. Dan =
Walters came up with the fix. We took a long but fine flat hand file and =
used one mount as the guide while we filed on the opposite side. We had =
it dead flat in ten minutes. Tightened the rack back and all was =
good.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Buck<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Michael Wood =
<mwood24020@aol.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 16, 2020 6:59 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> bucktrippel@verizon.net; michael.s.king@gmail.com; =
blance598@gmail.com<br><b>Cc:</b> =
Tigers@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Power =
steering<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Buc=
k, you might agree, better to address the issues which lead to a need =
for power steering rather than throw boost at it... =
;)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Mik=
e<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Buck Trippel via Tigers =
<<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br>To=
: 'michael king' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:michael.s.king@gmail.com";>michael.s.king@gmail.com</a>>=
; 'Lance Beauchamp' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:blance598@gmail.com";>blance598@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: =
'Tigers Den' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net";>Tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br>Se=
nt: Sun, Aug 16, 2020 6:57 pm<br>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Power =
steering<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=3Dyiv9199101606><div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
had a Vaxhual electric setup from the UK installed in one of out Tigers. =
It was great around town or on a curvey road. (you can dial in the =
amount of =E2=80=9Cboost=E2=80=9D you want. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Mic=
hael is very correct in that the installation was very neat, even in the =
LHD version I had. (about the only mod needed was to trim one of the =
metal defroster ducts under the driver=E2=80=99s side of the dash.) =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>How=
ever I did not like the power steering unit on the open road. I never =
was able to get it to track as well as the stock setup on the highway. I =
added all the caster I could (even wedged the cross member) but I was =
never happy with it. It was just too twitchy on straight roads and I do =
a lot of long distance highway driving in our Tigers. After an 8-hour =
drive I just found myself working too much. I couldn=E2=80=99t relax. I =
pulled it out & went back to the stock setup. The EPS unit is now =
resting quietly on some shelf in the garage. On the other hand, if I =
were driving daily on twisty mountain roads I=E2=80=99d go back to it in =
a second.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Buc=
k Trippel<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv9199101606yqt06545><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Fro=
m:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> =
Tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>tigers-bounces@autox.team.n=
et</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>michael king via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Sunday, August 16, 2020 6:38 PM<br><b>To:</b> Lance Beauchamp <<a =
href=3D"mailto:blance598@gmail.com";>blance598@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:=
</b> Tiger Club. Submission <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br><b=
>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Power steering<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
re are several ways to introduce power steering to the =
Tiger,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>In =
the UK and Australia people use the vaxhual/holden/opel astra electric =
setup mounted to a donor alpine top section of the =
steering column, very neat mounts under the dash and keeps all the =
stock components from the firewall =
forward..<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
re are also several people who have used hydraulic setups from =
mazda MX5 (miata) and also some subarus... these though require a change =
in rack<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On =
Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 11:23, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Rea=
lly , there is NO power steering unit that could be retrofitted to the =
tiger. The older I get the harder it steers when going =
slow. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3Dyiv9199101606msonormal =
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