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VWs verts had 3 different sizes of tear windows, but even the smallest woul=
d not fit.=20
Falcons have a zipped window that would be fine as a model to make smaller =
for a Tiger.=C2=A0 Possibly a bi-fold Fox body=C2=A0 Mustang could be cut d=
own to fit in front or behind the raised metal ledge in the top well. This =
idea has always been on my wish list for the Falcon and Tiger.=20
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 18:45:58 -0500
From: "Larry E. Paulick" <lpaulick1@verizon.net>
To: Tiger's List <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Red Tiger in Annapolis
I saw a red Tiger with Red HT in Annapolis on Tuesday getting on Route 50 (=
going east) from Route 2 around 1-1:30 PM yesterday.=C2=A0 Can the owner em=
ail me privately, or if you know this owner, let me have contact info.
Thanks
Larry Paulick
1965 Red Tiger w/ Red HT also
> On Feb 27, 2019, at 2:22 PM, coolvt--- via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>=
wrote:
>=20
> If I remember right the MGB had a window that zipped on the top and sides=
. Could be left down for a nice breeze through the car.
>=20
> In a message dated 2/27/2019 2:03:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, tigers@aut=
ox.team.net writes:
>=20
> Doug Robbins (who designed the soft top for the Tiger) says adding a zipp=
er to the current design would lead to wrinkles in the top.=C2=A0 The entir=
e design would have to be changed in order to properly support a zipper sof=
t top.=20
>=20
>=C2=A0=20
>=C2=A0=20
> From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of michael =
king via Tigers
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 2:19 AM
> To: Rob Hogan
> Cc: Tiger's List
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Convertible Top's Plastic Window
>=20
>=C2=A0=20
> A big reason that they all have plastic windows is quite obvious by the s=
hot of the very early volks convertible... they have a VERY small rear wind=
ow and the tops folded down like a pram sitting on the back of the car.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> While some modern cars have split glass rear windows in the tops so the g=
lass can fold into a smaller space.. glass generally needs to remain flat a=
nd not be forced into a small space when folded.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> You could probably make a Sunbeam with a zip-out window like some MX5's (=
miata) or some other more modern convertibles.. but size, folding mechanism=
and likelihood of impact are main reasons they are not often used.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=C2=A0=20
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 17:12, Rob Hogan via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net=
>=20
> In a Facebook Jalopnik article, author Jason Torchinsky expounds on "Why =
Was This OK" in reference to the application of substandard plastic rear wi=
ndows in convertible tops of almost every auto manufacturer except VW.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> As he explains: " No matter how amazing or expensive or well-built the ca=
r one of these plastic windows was stuck on, sooner or later the window wou=
ld cloud up and get filthy and more and more opaque, until eventually it?d =
yellow and crack" and "But there?s also questions for the convertible-buyin=
g population of the time, specifically, why did anyone put up with this s**=
*?"
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Having recently replaced my own Tiger's convertible perfectly useable top=
specifically because of a no longer transparent rear plastic window, I'd l=
ike to know if there is even the option of having the rear window replaced =
with a new glass or plastic window.=C2=A0 I would have gladly paid extra fo=
r a top without a deficient plastic window.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> https://jalopnik.com/its-absurd-we-put-up-with-this-crap-for-so-long-1832=
909894?utm_campaign=3Dsocialflow_jalopnik_facebook&utm_source=3Djalopnik_fa=
cebook&utm_medium=3Dsocialflow&fbclid=3DIwAR1RMm-lW5Df_T9MYvGcRa-SNHIfvhisy=
JgYLJmOVF0lw0jMP_SbQGfgg4o <https://jalopnik.com/its-absurd-we-put-up-with-=
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lW5Df_T9MYvGcRa-SNHIfvhisyJgYLJmOVF0lw0jMP_SbQGfgg4o>
>=C2=A0=20
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il>
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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 19:58:51 -0800
From: Jay Laifman <jay.laifman@gmail.com>
To: coolvt@aol.com
Cc: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Convertible Top's Plastic Window
Go GT and you won?t have to worry about it.=C2=A0=20
For most tops, by the time the plastic goes bad, probably need a new top an=
yway.=20
FWIW on my 18 year old Boxster top, I have routinely=C2=A0 cleaned it with =
Plexus and it is still good.=C2=A0=20
> On Feb 27, 2019, at 11:22 AM, coolvt--- via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net=
> wrote:
>=20
> If I remember right the MGB had a window that zipped on the top and sides=
. Could be left down for a nice breeze through the car.
>=20
> In a message dated 2/27/2019 2:03:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, tigers@aut=
ox.team.net writes:
>=20
> Doug Robbins (who designed the soft top for the Tiger) says adding a zipp=
er to the current design would lead to wrinkles in the top.=C2=A0 The entir=
e design would have to be changed in order to properly support a zipper sof=
t top.=20
>=20
>=C2=A0=20
>=20
>=C2=A0=20
>=20
> From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of michael =
king via Tigers
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 2:19 AM
> To: Rob Hogan
> Cc: Tiger's List
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Convertible Top's Plastic Window
>=20
>=C2=A0=20
>=20
> A big reason that they all have plastic windows is quite obvious by the s=
hot of the very early volks convertible... they have a VERY small rear wind=
ow and the tops folded down like a pram sitting on the back of the car.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> While some modern cars have split glass rear windows in the tops so the g=
lass can fold into a smaller space.. glass generally needs to remain flat a=
nd not be forced into a small space when folded.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> You could probably make a Sunbeam with a zip-out window like some MX5's (=
miata) or some other more modern convertibles.. but size, folding mechanism=
and likelihood of impact are main reasons they are not often used.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=C2=A0=20
>=20
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 17:12, Rob Hogan via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net=
> wrote:
>=20
> In a Facebook Jalopnik article, author Jason Torchinsky expounds on "Why =
Was This OK" in reference to the application of substandard plastic rear wi=
ndows in convertible tops of almost every auto manufacturer except VW.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> As he explains: " No matter how amazing or expensive or well-built the ca=
r one of these plastic windows was stuck on, sooner or later the window wou=
ld cloud up and get filthy and more and more opaque, until eventually it?d =
yellow and crack" and "But there?s also questions for the convertible-buyin=
g population of the time, specifically, why did anyone put up with this s**=
*?"
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Having recently replaced my own Tiger's convertible perfectly useable top=
specifically because of a no longer transparent rear plastic window, I'd l=
ike to know if there is even the option of having the rear window replaced =
with a new glass or plastic window.=C2=A0 I would have gladly paid extra fo=
r a top without a deficient plastic window.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> https://jalopnik.com/its-absurd-we-put-up-with-this-crap-for-so-long-1832=
909894?utm_campaign=3Dsocialflow_jalopnik_facebook&utm_source=3Djalopnik_fa=
cebook&utm_medium=3Dsocialflow&fbclid=3DIwAR1RMm-lW5Df_T9MYvGcRa-SNHIfvhisy=
JgYLJmOVF0lw0jMP_SbQGfgg4o
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>=20
>=20
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> Michael King
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<p dir=3D"ltr">VWs verts had 3 different sizes of tear windows, but even th=
e smallest would not fit. <br>
Falcons have a zipped window that would be fine as a model to make smaller =
for a Tiger. Possibly a bi-fold Fox body Mustang could be cut d=
own to fit in front or behind the raised metal ledge in the top well. This =
idea has always been on my wish list for the Falcon and Tiger. </p>
</br></br><div class=3D"device_aol_et_org_dt_dd_quote"></div><hr style=3D"b=
order:0;height:1px;color:#999;background-color:#999;width:100%;margin:0 0 9=
px 0;padding:0;"></hr><span style=3D"font-size:14px; color:#999999;">On Wed=
nesday, February 27, 2019 tigers-request <<span style=3D"color:#0000A0"=
>tigers@autox.team.net</span>> wrote:</span><br></br><div dir=3D'ltr'>S=
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day's Topics:<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'> =
1. Red Tiger in Annapolis (Larry E. Paulick)<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&nbs=
p; 2. Re: Convertible Top's Plastic Window (Jay Laifman)<br></div><div dir=
=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>------------=
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r=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Message: 1<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>D=
ate: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 18:45:58 -0500<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>From: "Larry=
E. Paulick" <<a ymailto=3D"mailto:lpaulick1@verizon.net"; href=3D"mailto=
:lpaulick1@verizon.net">lpaulick1@verizon.net</a>><br></div><div dir=3D'=
ltr'>To: Tiger's List <<a ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; href=
=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D'ltr'>Subject: [Tigers] Red Tiger in Annapolis<br></div><div dir=
=3D'ltr'>Message-ID: <<a ymailto=3D"mailto:3B24DE1D-36C5-4632-A0F0-F7644=
25569FE@verizon.net" href=3D"mailto:3B24DE1D-36C5-4632-A0F0-F764425569FE@ve=
rizon.net">3B24DE1D-36C5-4632-A0F0-F764425569FE@verizon.net</a>><br></di=
v><div dir=3D'ltr'>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><di=
v dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>I saw a red Tiger with Red HT in A=
nnapolis on Tuesday getting on Route 50 (going east) from Route 2 around 1-=
1:30 PM yesterday. Can the owner email me privately, or if you know t=
his owner, let me have contact info.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D'ltr'>Thanks<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>=
Larry Paulick<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>1965 Red Tiger w/ Red HT also<br></=
div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 2:=
22 PM, coolvt--- via Tigers <<a ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"=
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:=
<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> If I rememb=
er right the MGB had a window that zipped on the top and sides. Could be le=
ft down for a nice breeze through the car.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <=
br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> In a message dated 2/27/2019 2:03:14 PM East=
ern Standard Time, <a ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mail=
to:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a> writes:<br></div><div d=
ir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> Doug Robbins (who designed =
the soft top for the Tiger) says adding a zipper to the current design woul=
d lead to wrinkles in the top. The entire design would have to be cha=
nged in order to properly support a zipper soft top. <br></div><div dir=3D'=
ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>=
> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> From: Tigers [mailto:<a ymailto=
=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of michael king v=
ia Tigers<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019=
2:19 AM<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> To: Rob Hogan<br></div><div dir=3D'=
ltr'>> Cc: Tiger's List<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> Subject: Re: [Tig=
ers] Convertible Top's Plastic Window<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></=
div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> A big reaso=
n that they all have plastic windows is quite obvious by the shot of the ve=
ry early volks convertible... they have a VERY small rear window and the to=
ps folded down like a pram sitting on the back of the car.<br></div><div di=
r=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&=
gt; <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> While some modern cars have split glass=
rear windows in the tops so the glass can fold into a smaller space.. glas=
s generally needs to remain flat and not be forced into a small space when =
folded.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br>=
</div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> You could proba=
bly make a Sunbeam with a zip-out window like some MX5's (miata) or some ot=
her more modern convertibles.. but size, folding mechanism and likelihood o=
f impact are main reasons they are not often used.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr=
'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br>=
</div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> On Wed, 2=
7 Feb 2019 at 17:12, Rob Hogan via Tigers <<a ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@a=
utox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net<=
/a> <mailto:<a ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:t=
igers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>>> wrote:<br></div><di=
v dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> In a Facebook Jalopnik a=
rticle, author Jason Torchinsky expounds on "Why Was This OK" in reference =
to the application of substandard plastic rear windows in convertible tops =
of almost every auto manufacturer except VW.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>>=
<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div>=
<div dir=3D'ltr'>> As he explains: " No matter how amazing or expensive =
or well-built the car one of these plastic windows was stuck on, sooner or =
later the window would cloud up and get filthy and more and more opaque, un=
til eventually it?d yellow and crack" and "But there?s also questions for t=
he convertible-buying population of the time, specifically, why did anyone =
put up with this s***?"<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=
=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&g=
t; Having recently replaced my own Tiger's convertible perfectly useable to=
p specifically because of a no longer transparent rear plastic window, I'd =
like to know if there is even the option of having the rear window replaced=
with a new glass or plastic window. I would have gladly paid extra f=
or a top without a deficient plastic window.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>>=
<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div>=
<div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D=
'ltr'>> <a href=3D"https://jalopnik.com/its-absurd-we-put-up-with-this-c=
rap-for-so-long-1832909894?utm_campaign=3Dsocialflow_jalopnik_facebook&utm_=
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T9MYvGcRa-SNHIfvhisyJgYLJmOVF0lw0jMP_SbQGfgg4o " target=3D_blank>https://ja=
lopnik.com/its-absurd-we-put-up-with-this-crap-for-so-long-1832909894?utm_c=
ampaign=3Dsocialflow_jalopnik_facebook&utm_source=3Djalopnik_facebook&utm_m=
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0jMP_SbQGfgg4o </a><<a href=3D"https://jalopnik.com/its-absurd-we-put-up=
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=3D'ltr'>Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 19:58:51 -0800<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Fr=
om: Jay Laifman <<a ymailto=3D"mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com"; href=3D"mai=
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:tigers@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.=
team.net</a><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Convertible To=
p's Plastic Window<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Message-ID: <<a ymailto=3D"=
mailto:3DDC5E12-5440-4B8F-BF7E-FF6B188FE704@gmail.com"; href=3D"mailto:3DDC5=
E12-5440-4B8F-BF7E-FF6B188FE704@gmail.com">3DDC5E12-5440-4B8F-BF7E-FF6B188F=
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charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Go G=
T and you won?t have to worry about it. <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><b=
r></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>For most tops, by the time the plastic goes bad, p=
robably need a new top anyway. <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div di=
r=3D'ltr'>FWIW on my 18 year old Boxster top, I have routinely clean=
ed it with Plexus and it is still good. <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><b=
r></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 11:22 AM, coolvt--- via T=
igers <<a ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:tigers=
@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D'=
ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> If I remember right the MGB had a=
window that zipped on the top and sides. Could be left down for a nice bre=
eze through the car.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'l=
tr'>> In a message dated 2/27/2019 2:03:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, <a =
ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.n=
et">tigers@autox.team.net</a> writes:<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></=
div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> Doug Robbins (who designed the soft top for the T=
iger) says adding a zipper to the current design would lead to wrinkles in =
the top. The entire design would have to be changed in order to prope=
rly support a zipper soft top. <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><d=
iv dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div di=
r=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'=
ltr'>> From: Tigers [mailto:<a ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.te=
am.net" href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>tigers-bounces@autox.=
team.net</a>] On Behalf Of michael king via Tigers<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr=
'>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 2:19 AM<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'=
>> To: Rob Hogan<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> Cc: Tiger's List<br></di=
v><div dir=3D'ltr'>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Convertible Top's Plastic Win=
dow<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <b=
r></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> A big reason =
that they all have plastic windows is quite obvious by the shot of the very=
early volks convertible... they have a VERY small rear window and the tops=
folded down like a pram sitting on the back of the car.<br></div><div dir=
=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&g=
t; <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> While some modern cars have split glass =
rear windows in the tops so the glass can fold into a smaller space.. glass=
generally needs to remain flat and not be forced into a small space when f=
olded.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br><=
/div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> You could probab=
ly make a Sunbeam with a zip-out window like some MX5's (miata) or some oth=
er more modern convertibles.. but size, folding mechanism and likelihood of=
impact are main reasons they are not often used.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'=
>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br><=
/div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div>=
<div dir=3D'ltr'>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 17:12, Rob Hogan via Tigers &l=
t;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.t=
eam.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>>=
; <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> In a Facebook Jalopnik article, author Ja=
son Torchinsky expounds on "Why Was This OK" in reference to the applicatio=
n of substandard plastic rear windows in convertible tops of almost every a=
uto manufacturer except VW.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div d=
ir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>=
> As he explains: " No matter how amazing or expensive or well-built the=
car one of these plastic windows was stuck on, sooner or later the window =
would cloud up and get filthy and more and more opaque, until eventually it=
?d yellow and crack" and "But there?s also questions for the convertible-bu=
ying population of the time, specifically, why did anyone put up with this =
s***?"<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br><=
/div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> Having recently =
replaced my own Tiger's convertible perfectly useable top specifically beca=
use of a no longer transparent rear plastic window, I'd like to know if the=
re is even the option of having the rear window replaced with a new glass o=
r plastic window. I would have gladly paid extra for a top without a =
deficient plastic window.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=
=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>> <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&g=
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rd-we-put-up-with-this-crap-for-so-long-1832909894?utm_campaign=3Dsocialflo=
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