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Subject: [Tigers] Red Tiger in Annapolis
From: "Larry E. Paulick via Tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 18:45:58 -0500
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I saw a red Tiger with Red HT in Annapolis on Tuesday getting on Route =
50 (going east) from Route 2 around 1-1:30 PM yesterday.  Can the owner =
email me privately, or if you know this owner, let me have contact info.

Thanks

Larry Paulick
1965 Red Tiger w/ Red HT also

> On Feb 27, 2019, at 2:22 PM, coolvt--- via Tigers =
<tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> If I remember right the MGB had a window that zipped on the top and =
sides. Could be left down for a nice breeze through the car.
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> In a message dated 2/27/2019 2:03:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, =
tigers@autox.team.net writes:
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> Doug Robbins (who designed the soft top for the Tiger) says adding a =
zipper to the current design would lead to wrinkles in the top.  The =
entire design would have to be changed in order to properly support a =
zipper soft top.=20
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> From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
michael king via Tigers
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 2:19 AM
> To: Rob Hogan
> Cc: Tiger's List
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Convertible Top's Plastic Window
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> A big reason that they all have plastic windows is quite obvious by =
the shot of the very early volks convertible... they have a VERY small =
rear window and the tops folded down like a pram sitting on the back of =
the car.
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> While some modern cars have split glass rear windows in the tops so =
the glass can fold into a smaller space.. glass generally needs to =
remain flat and not be forced into a small space when folded.
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>=20
> You could probably make a Sunbeam with a zip-out window like some =
MX5's (miata) or some other more modern convertibles.. but size, folding =
mechanism and likelihood of impact are main reasons they are not often =
used.
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> =20
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 17:12, Rob Hogan via Tigers =
>=20
> In a Facebook Jalopnik article, author Jason Torchinsky expounds on =
"Why Was This OK" in reference to the application of substandard plastic =
rear windows in convertible tops of almost every auto manufacturer =
except VW.
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> As he explains: " No matter how amazing or expensive or well-built the =
car one of these plastic windows was stuck on, sooner or later the =
window would cloud up and get filthy and more and more opaque, until =
eventually it=E2=80=99d yellow and crack" and "But there=E2=80=99s also =
questions for the convertible-buying population of the time, =
specifically, why did anyone put up with this s***?"
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> Having recently replaced my own Tiger's convertible perfectly useable =
top specifically because of a no longer transparent rear plastic window, =
I'd like to know if there is even the option of having the rear window =
replaced with a new glass or plastic window.  I would have gladly paid =
extra for a top without a deficient plastic window.
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><span=
 style=3D"font-family: Times-Roman;" class=3D"">I saw a red Tiger with =
Red HT in Annapolis on Tuesday getting on Route 50 (going east) from =
Route 2 around 1-1:30 PM yesterday. &nbsp;Can the owner email me =
privately, or if you know this owner, let me have contact =
info.</span><div class=3D"" style=3D"font-family: Times-Roman;"><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"font-family: =
Times-Roman;">Thanks</div><div class=3D"" style=3D"font-family: =
Times-Roman;"><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"font-family: =
Times-Roman;">Larry Paulick</div><div class=3D"" style=3D"font-family: =
Times-Roman;">1965 Red Tiger w/ Red HT also</div><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Feb =
27, 2019, at 2:22 PM, coolvt--- via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"userEdit mceEditable" style=3D"font-family: arial, =
helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">If I remember right the MGB had =
a window that zipped on the top and sides. Could be left down for a nice =
breeze through the car.</span></div>
<div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div>
</div>
In a message dated 2/27/2019 2:03:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, <a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>=
 writes:
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blue 2px solid;" class=3D"">
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<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"yiv7546316654WordSection1"><p =
class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt;" =
class=3D"">Doug Robbins (who designed the soft top for the Tiger) says =
adding a zipper to the current design would lead to wrinkles in the =
top.&nbsp; The entire design would have to be changed in order to =
properly support a zipper soft top.&nbsp; </span></p><div class=3D""><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt;" class=3D""> &nbsp;</span><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt;" class=3D""> &nbsp;</span><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt; padding: =
3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;" class=3D""><p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal"><strong=
 class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt;" =
class=3D"">From:</span></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt;" =
class=3D""> Tigers [<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <strong class=3D"">On=
 Behalf Of </strong>michael king via Tigers<br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D""><strong class=3D"">Sent:</strong> Wednesday, February 27, =
2019 2:19 AM<br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><strong class=3D"">To:</strong> =
Rob Hogan<br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><strong class=3D"">Cc:</strong> =
Tiger's List<br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><strong =
class=3D"">Subject:</strong> Re: [Tigers] Convertible Top's Plastic =
Window</span></p>
</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal">A big reason that =
they all have plastic windows is quite obvious by the shot of the very =
early volks convertible... they have a VERY small rear window and the =
tops folded down like a pram sitting on the back of the car.</p>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal"><br class=3D""></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal">While some modern =
cars have split glass rear windows in the tops so the glass can fold =
into a smaller space.. glass generally needs to remain flat and not be =
forced into a small space when folded.</p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal"><br class=3D""></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal">You could probably =
make a Sunbeam with a zip-out window like some MX5's (miata) or some =
other more modern convertibles.. but size, folding mechanism and =
likelihood of impact are main reasons they are not often used.</p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal"><br class=3D""></p>
</div>
</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
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<div class=3D""><p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal">On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 =
at 17:12, Rob Hogan via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener =
noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
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<div class=3D""><p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal">In a Facebook =
Jalopnik article, author Jason Torchinsky expounds on "Why Was This OK" =
in reference to the application of substandard plastic rear windows in =
convertible tops of almost every auto manufacturer except VW.</p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal"><br class=3D""></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal">As he explains: " No =
matter how amazing or expensive or well-built the car one of these =
plastic windows was stuck on, sooner or later the window would cloud up =
and get filthy and more and more opaque, until eventually it=E2=80=99d =
yellow and crack" and "But there=E2=80=99s also questions for the =
convertible-buying population of the time, specifically, why did anyone =
put up with this s***?"</p>
</div>
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</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal">Having recently =
replaced my own Tiger's convertible perfectly useable top specifically =
because of a no longer transparent rear plastic window, I'd like to know =
if there is even the option of having the rear window replaced with a =
new glass or plastic window.&nbsp; I would have gladly paid extra for a =
top without a deficient plastic window.</p>
</div>
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