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If I remember right the MGB had a window that zipped on the top and sides. =
Could be left down for a nice breeze through the car.
In a message dated 2/27/2019 2:03:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, tigers@autox=
.team.net writes:
Doug Robbins (who designed the soft top for the Tiger) says adding a zipper=
to the current design would lead to wrinkles in the top.=C2=A0 The entire =
design would have to be changed in order to properly support a zipper soft =
top.=C2=A0=20
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of michael ki=
ng via Tigers
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 2:19 AM
To: Rob Hogan
Cc: Tiger's List
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Convertible Top's Plastic Window
=C2=A0
A big reason that they all have plastic windows is quite obvious by the sho=
t of the very early volks convertible... they have a VERY small rear window=
and the tops folded down like a pram sitting on the back of the car.
While some modern cars have split glass rear windows in the tops so the gla=
ss can fold into a smaller space.. glass generally needs to remain flat and=
not be forced into a small space when folded.
You could probably make a Sunbeam with a zip-out window like some MX5's (mi=
ata) or some other more modern convertibles.. but size, folding mechanism a=
nd likelihood of impact are main reasons they are not often used.
=C2=A0
On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 17:12, Rob Hogan via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
In a Facebook Jalopnik article, author Jason Torchinsky expounds on "Why Wa=
s This OK" in reference to the application of substandard plastic rear wind=
ows in convertible tops of almost every auto manufacturer except VW.
As he explains: " No matter how amazing or expensive or well-built the car =
one of these plastic windows was stuck on, sooner or later the window would=
cloud up and get filthy and more and more opaque, until eventually it=E2=
=80=99d yellow and crack" and "But there=E2=80=99s also questions for the c=
onvertible-buying population of the time, specifically, why did anyone put =
up with this s***?"
Having recently replaced my own Tiger's convertible perfectly useable top s=
pecifically because of a no longer transparent rear plastic window, I'd lik=
e to know if there is even the option of having the rear window replaced wi=
th a new glass or plastic window.=C2=A0 I would have gladly paid extra for =
a top without a deficient plastic window.
https://jalopnik.com/its-absurd-we-put-up-with-this-crap-for-so-long-183290=
9894?utm_campaign=3Dsocialflow_jalopnik_facebook&utm_source=3Djalopnik_face=
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<div><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1=
2pt; color: #000000;">If I remember right the MGB had a window that zipped =
on the top and sides. Could be left down for a nice breeze through the car.=
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In a message dated 2/27/2019 2:03:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, tigers@autox=
.team.net writes:
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<p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt;">Doug=
Robbins (who designed the soft top for the Tiger) says adding a zipper to =
the current design would lead to wrinkles in the top. The entire desi=
gn would have to be changed in order to properly support a zipper soft top.=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt;"> &nb=
sp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt;"> &nb=
sp;</span></p>
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0in 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0p=
t;">From:</span></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt;"> Tigers [mailto=
:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>michael king =
via Tigers<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, February 27,=
2019 2:19 AM<br clear=3D"none"><strong>To:</strong> Rob Hogan<br clear=3D"=
none"><strong>Cc:</strong> Tiger's List<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Subject:<=
/strong> Re: [Tigers] Convertible Top's Plastic Window</span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal">A big reason that they all have plastic=
windows is quite obvious by the shot of the very early volks convertible..=
. they have a VERY small rear window and the tops folded down like a pram s=
itting on the back of the car.</p>
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<p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal"><br></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal">While some modern cars have split glass=
rear windows in the tops so the glass can fold into a smaller space.. glas=
s generally needs to remain flat and not be forced into a small space when =
folded.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal"><br></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal">You could probably make a Sunbeam with =
a zip-out window like some MX5's (miata) or some other more modern converti=
bles.. but size, folding mechanism and likelihood of impact are main reason=
s they are not often used.</p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal"><br></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal"> </p>
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<p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal">On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 17:12, Rob Hogan=
via Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wr=
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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal">In a Facebook Jalopnik article, author =
Jason Torchinsky expounds on "Why Was This OK" in reference to the applicat=
ion of substandard plastic rear windows in convertible tops of almost every=
auto manufacturer except VW.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal"><br></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal">As he explains: " No matter how amazing=
or expensive or well-built the car one of these plastic windows was stuck =
on, sooner or later the window would cloud up and get filthy and more and m=
ore opaque, until eventually it’d yellow and crack" and "But there&rs=
quo;s also questions for the convertible-buying population of the time, spe=
cifically, why did anyone put up with this s***?"</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal"><br></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7546316654MsoNormal">Having recently replaced my own Tiger's=
convertible perfectly useable top specifically because of a no longer tran=
sparent rear plastic window, I'd like to know if there is even the option o=
f having the rear window replaced with a new glass or plastic window. =
I would have gladly paid extra for a top without a deficient plastic windo=
w.</p>
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