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Well if the Tiger list wants activity I'm ready to trigger a discussion.
My Tiger shell has sat garaged for 20yrs and I've finally started this week=
. I've had prior starts as well but this time it's real as the car is on j=
ack stands and the tires, hood, trunk, windshield removed. I've saved 100'=
s of e-mails to word docs and have a pretty good idea of where and how I am=
going to do this. I'm starting at the back of the car and working forward=
, mechanical systems only let's get this car on the road! I've got one of =
the bolt in FE from Mike H and get to do what I want for spindle and bolt p=
attern up front so the question is what to do with the rear end? Lots of i=
nfo available on disk brakes and don't think that will be too tricky. With=
a 5 spd conversion planned I'll put in a new posi unit with 2.73 gears. =
I also have a Dan W torque arm set up to install and will be removing the =
panhard rod and traction masters.
In my notes though I see comments about weakness of the two piece axle. Sa=
ndy G had a custom rear end made and posted that info here http://www.gtspa=
rkplugs.com/sunbeam_tiger_axle_swap.html . I've got another e-mail saved t=
hat sums it up best from "bt" about, "Doane welded the ends off an AH 3000=
onto a Dana 23 housing from a Studebaker. The result was a full floating a=
xle with a one piece axle. I had a pair of axles made for it over 12 years =
ago and those are still running great with many thousands of high G racing =
miles. The advantage of the full floating design is that if the axle were t=
o fail the wheel would not separate from the car. The LAT 43 piece looks li=
ke it would bolt onto the Dana 44 Tiger housing but take the outer pieces (=
bearings, seals) from the AH.
The stock Tiger rear end axle design has "bugged" racers since inception. L=
ast Saturday Ted Sutton stopped by the Tiger pits at Willow. (For those not=
familiar with Ted, he was the crew chief on the Shelby American race Tiger=
. He also built the first 427 Cobra.) His first question was, "Are these Ti=
gers still using that silly two piece axle design with a key way?" We told =
him most are. He just shook his head."
I'm far from an expert on rear end design and options. From what I read an=
d my plans to build a high hp street car, as opposed to a full on race car,=
should I do something with the stock rear end? Is this as simple as turni=
ng up at the local 4x4 shop and at a minimum getting a single piece axel ma=
de? I don't want to change housing because I have the Dan Walter set up re=
ady to install on the Dana 44. Or is the stock axel not such a worry?
Thanks
dan
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<div>Well if the Tiger list wants activity I’m ready to trigger a dis=
cussion.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>My Tiger shell has sat garaged for 20yrs and I’ve finally starte=
d this week. I’ve had prior starts as well but this time itR=
17;s real as the car is on jack stands and the tires, hood, trunk, windshie=
ld removed. I’ve saved 100’s of e-mails to word docs and
have a pretty good idea of where and how I am going to do this. IR=
17;m starting at the back of the car and working forward, mechanical system=
s only let’s get this car on the road! I’ve got one of th=
e bolt in FE from Mike H and get to do what I want for spindle
and bolt pattern up front so the question is what to do with the rear end?&=
nbsp; Lots of info available on disk brakes and don’t think that will=
be too tricky. With a 5 spd conversion planned I’ll put in a n=
ew posi unit with 2.73 gears. I also have a Dan W torque
arm set up to install and will be removing the panhard rod and traction mas=
ters.</div>
<div><font face=3D"Calibri"> </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;">In my notes though =
I see comments about weakness of the two piece axle. Sandy G had a cu=
stom rear end made and posted that info here <a href=3D"http://www.gtsparkp=
lugs.com/sunbeam_tiger_axle_swap.html"><font color=3D"#0563C1"><u>http://ww=
w.gtsparkplugs.com/sunbeam_tiger_axle_swap.html</u></font></a>
. I’ve got another e-mail saved that sums it up best from ̶=
0;bt” about, “<font face=3D"Consolas">Doane welded the ends of=
f an AH 3000 onto a Dana 23 housing from a Studebaker. The result was a ful=
l floating axle with a one piece axle. I had a pair of axles made
for it over 12 years ago and those are still running great with many thousa=
nds of high G racing miles. The advantage of the full floating design is th=
at if the axle were to fail the wheel would not separate from the car. The =
LAT 43 piece looks like it would
bolt onto the Dana 44 Tiger housing but take the outer pieces (bearings, se=
als) from the AH.</font></span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Consolas" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;">&=
nbsp;</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Consolas" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;">T=
he stock Tiger rear end axle design has "bugged" racers since inc=
eption. Last Saturday Ted Sutton stopped by the Tiger pits at Willow. (For =
those not familiar with Ted, he was the crew chief
on the Shelby American race Tiger. He also built the first 427 Cobra.) His =
first question was, "Are these Tigers still using that silly two piece=
axle design with a key way?" We told him most are. He just shook his =
head.”</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Calibri"> </font></div>
<div>I’m far from an expert on rear end design and options. Fro=
m what I read and my plans to build a high hp street car, as opposed to a f=
ull on race car, should I do something with the stock rear end? Is th=
is as simple as turning up at the local 4x4 shop
and at a minimum getting a single piece axel made? I don’t want=
to change housing because I have the Dan Walter set up ready to install on=
the Dana 44. Or is the stock axel not such a worry?</div>
<div><font face=3D"Calibri"> </font></div>
<div>Thanks</div>
<div>dan</div>
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