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Tony=20
Exactly. When I did this work on my Tiger several decades ago I ran =
the
starter drive gear around my new flywheel ring gear by hand and it stop =
in
less than 1 revelation of the drive gear. I got a new starter drive =
gear
and it work perfectly.
=20
It is imperative that anyone working on these parts to be aware of the
problems and check everything for fit and function or you will be =
redoing
your work over and over again.
=20
Most of us don't understand the difference between the 160 and 157 tooth
ring gears. Even worse is that fact that you generally have to order =
the
A/T starter to work on the Tiger engine.
My goal is to sort this out some.
=20
Ron Fraser
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Lang [mailto:achd73@yahoo.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 3:24 PM
To: rfraser@bluefrog.com; tigers@Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Flywheel
Ron- it is imperative you match the ring gear to correct starter bendix. =
A
parts store without an older employee that is aware of the 157 and 160 =
tooth
flywheel ring gear will sell you whatever starter that will bolt up.
Unfortunately it is easy to install a new flywheel but pulling the =
engine
isn't as easy as changing a ring gear. May well be to late for your ring
gear but it is easy to change out the bendix so "others" can make sure =
they
have a bendix that matches their ring gear.
TonytheTiger
(TtT)
On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 2:03 PM, Ron Fraser via Tigers
<tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
I found a comment which makes sense to me.
=20
Flywheel ring gear was changed from 160 to 157 teeth to improve starter =
gear
engagement.
=20
Ring gear OD =3D 13.258" circumference =3D 41.65"
41.65"/ 160 =3D .26"
41.65" / 157 =3D .2653"
=20
Maybe this is why my 160 tooth original ring gear was all chewed up.
=20
I have not found a date when Ford made this change to 157 teeth.
=20
Ron Fraser
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D468063920-02122015> <FONT =
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size=3D2 face=3DArial>Exactly. When I did this work on my Tiger =
several=20
decades ago I ran the starter drive gear around my new flywheel=20
ring gear by hand and it stop in less than 1 revelation of the =
drive=20
gear. I got a new starter drive gear and it work=20
perfectly.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D468063920-02122015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>It is=20
imperative that anyone working on these parts to be aware of the =
problems and=20
check everything for fit and function or you will be redoing your work =
over and=20
over again.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D468063920-02122015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D468063920-02122015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>Most=20
of us don't understand the difference between the 160 and 157 tooth ring =
gears. Even worse is that fact that you generally have to order =
the A/T=20
starter to work on the Tiger engine.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D468063920-02122015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>My=20
goal is to sort this out some.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D468063920-02122015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D468063920-02122015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>Ron=20
Fraser</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Tony Lang=20
[mailto:achd73@yahoo.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 02, =
2015 3:24=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> rfraser@bluefrog.com;=20
tigers@Autox.Team.Net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tigers]=20
Flywheel<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1449065922946_27070>Ron- it is imperative you match =
the ring=20
gear to correct starter bendix. A parts store without an older =
employee that=20
is aware of the 157 and 160 tooth flywheel ring gear will sell you =
whatever=20
starter that will bolt up. Unfortunately it is easy to install a new =
flywheel=20
but pulling the engine isn't as easy as changing a ring gear. May well =
be to=20
late for your ring gear but it is easy to change out the bendix so =
"others"=20
can make sure they have a bendix that matches their ring =
gear.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1449065922946_27049><SPAN>TonytheTiger</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1449065922946_27049>(TtT)</DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>On Wednesday, December 2, =
2015 2:03 PM,=20
Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>=20
wrote:<BR></FONT></DIV><BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3Dyiv5365282710078055119-02122015>I=20
found a comment which makes sense to me.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3Dyiv5365282710078055119-02122015></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3Dyiv5365282710078055119-02122015>Flywheel ring gear was changed =
from 160=20
to 157 teeth to improve starter gear =
engagement.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3Dyiv5365282710078055119-02122015></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3Dyiv5365282710078055119-02122015>Ring=20
gear OD =3D 13.258" circumference =3D =
41.65"</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3Dyiv5365282710078055119-02122015>41.65"/ 160 =3D =
.26"</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3Dyiv5365282710078055119-02122015>41.65" / 157 =3D=20
.2653"</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=3Dyiv5365282710078055119-02122015></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3Dyiv5365282710078055119-02122015>Maybe=20
this is why my 160 tooth original ring gear was all chewed=20
up.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3Dyiv5365282710078055119-02122015></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
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have not found a date when Ford made this change to 157=20
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