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Hi Ron,
Certainly that is the case now =96 if one had the original block for a give=
n Tiger, it would be worth it to sleeve the block if necessary in order to =
preserve the originality for a stock restoration, rather than putting in a =
289 for =93appearance-correct=94 restoration.
In the past, though, I=92m sure lots of the 260=92s were removed and discar=
ded even if they were running fine, just to get the extra cubes available i=
n a 289 or 302.
For what it=92s worth regarding serial numbers, build sequence, etc: My Tig=
er is the second-last Mk1A by VIN, and I still have the original HEH-E gear=
box for it with the correct (per TBON) ID number. A previous owner substitu=
ted a 5 bolt 289 for the 260 at some point and the original engine was gone=
long before I got the car. It was built after they had started the Mk2 pro=
duction line, presumably to use up Mk1A parts=85 and drivelines. Any story =
about late Mk1A Tigers with factory 289=92s ignores the fact that the Mk2 T=
igers had 6 bolt 289=92s and wide ratio HEH-CF (or HEH-B?) gearboxes, and t=
he Rootes production line would (should?) never have been supplied with 5-b=
olt 289 engines paired with close ratio HEH-E gearboxes unless Ford made a =
major mistake.
Cheers,
Theo
Date: Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger on eBay (michael king)
Tod
Just because they say it is a 289 doesn't make it so.
I did not look so I can't say for sure on this Tiger but the only way to kn=
ow to be sure is by the block casting number.
IMO it is a shame to change out an original 260 engine unless it broke badl=
y.
Ron Fraser
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From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tod Brown =
via Tigers
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger on eBay (michael king)
And, of course, it has a 289.
Interestingly (at least to me), this car's serial number is only 10 after m=
ine (2394 vs. 2384).
Cheers,
Tod
B382002384LRXFE
TAC 864
original rivets
original engine
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<div>Hi Ron,</div>
<div>Certainly that is the case now =96 if one had the original block for a=
given Tiger, it would be worth it to sleeve the block if necessary in orde=
r to preserve the originality for a stock restoration, rather than putting =
in a 289 for =93appearance-correct=94
restoration. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>In the past, though, I=92m sure lots of the 260=92s were removed and d=
iscarded even if they were running fine, just to get the extra cubes availa=
ble in a 289 or 302.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>For what it=92s worth regarding serial numbers, build sequence, etc: M=
y Tiger is the second-last Mk1A by VIN, and I still have the original HEH-E=
gearbox for it with the correct (per TBON) ID number. A previous owner sub=
stituted a 5 bolt 289 for the 260
at some point and the original engine was gone long before I got the car. =
It was built after they had started the Mk2 production line, presumably to =
use up Mk1A parts=85 and drivelines. Any story about late Mk1A Tigers with =
factory 289=92s ignores the fact that
the Mk2 Tigers had 6 bolt 289=92s and wide ratio HEH-CF (or HEH-B?) gearbo=
xes, and the Rootes production line would (should?) never have been supplie=
d with 5-bolt 289 engines paired with close ratio HEH-E gearboxes unless Fo=
rd made a major mistake.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Theo</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"73459=
4217-24052015"> Just because they say it is a 289 doesn't=
make it so.</span></font></div>
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4217-24052015">I did not look so I can't say for sure on this Tiger bu=
t the only way to know to be sure is by the block casting number.=
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<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"73459=
4217-24052015">IMO it is a shame to change out an original 260 engine unles=
s it broke badly.</span></font></div>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tod Brown via Tigers<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 24, 2015 10:47 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Tiger on eBay (michael king)<br>
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<font face=3D"Arial">And, of course, it has a 289. <br>
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<font face=3D"Arial">Interestingly<font face=3D"Arial"> (at least to me), t=
his car's serial number is only 10 after mine (2394 vs. 2384).<br>
<br>
<font face=3D"Arial">Cheers,<br>
<br>
<font face=3D"Arial">Tod<br>
<font face=3D"Arial">B382002384LRXFE<br>
<font face=3D"Arial">TAC 864<br>
<font face=3D"Arial">original rivets<br>
<font face=3D"Arial">original engine</font><br>
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