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Re: [Tigers] high speed generator pulley

To: Mark Rense <mark44124@gmail.com>, "genepadgett@comcast.net" <genepadgett@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] high speed generator pulley
From: D or G at sbc via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 00:48:17 +0000 (UTC)
Cc: 'tigers' <tigers@autox.team.net>
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
Delivered-to: tigers@autox.team.net
References: <00c901d0718e$22c820a0$685861e0$@gmail.com>
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The Tiger generator pulley is standard Ford C2OF-10130-A, the Tiger mountin=
g bracket is special.
David

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      From: Mark Rense via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
 To: genepadgett@comcast.net=20
Cc: 'tigers' <tigers@autox.team.net>=20
 Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2015 4:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [Tigers] high speed generator pulley
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From: genepadgett@comcast.net [mailto:genepadgett@comcast.net]=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 6:59 PM
To: Mark Rense
Cc: tigers
Subject: Re: [Tigers] high speed generator pulley =C2=A0Many thanks to all =
of you for sharing your collective wisdom. =C2=A0The expertise available th=
rough all of you here on the List, and the willingness to share it, continu=
es to amaze. =C2=A0I did find what might be a useful under drive pulley. =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0https://www.npdlink.com/store/products/mustang_pulley_generato=
r_stamped_fins-100767-431.html =C2=A0But at $280 it does not make sense to =
spend that amount of money together with the $110 for the remanufactured ge=
nerator, I would have $390 invested in a solution that is inferior to an ge=
nerator look-alike alternator for about the same amount of money. =C2=A0 Pl=
us something tells me that the pulley may only be 3.75 inches in diameter, =
whick would onlu give me about a 12 percent speed reduction. =C2=A0 That is=
 based on what I see for $900 on ebay: =C2=A0http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-M=
ustang-AC-Cobra-OE-Restored-Fomoco-HIPO-Generator-Dynamo-/350893612053?hash=
=3Ditem51b2e39c15&vxp=3Dmtr =C2=A0Cost aside, I had not factored in the pos=
sibility my 347 may need a pusher fan for cooling in very hot, slow speed w=
eather/driving conditions. =C2=A0So far in 80 degree weather last year, the=
 griffin radiator, 6 blade fan and reduced diameter pulley keep things nice=
ly in the desired 195-205 degree engine temp range. =C2=A0Have not had a ch=
ance to see how things go under more stressful conditions. =C2=A0 Thanks Ma=
rk L for mentioning a cooling aspect I had not thought of. =C2=A0Hate to ha=
ve a generator setup that will not drive a pusher fan near idle if it turns=
 out I need one. =C2=A0So for the time being I will just stick with the new=
 generator and stock pulley. =C2=A0 We will see it it lasts through its one=
 year replacement warranty.! =C2=A0I learned a lot through asking the quest=
ions, thanks again everyone for sharing your knowledge. =C2=A0Best regards,=
 =C2=A0Gene =C2=A0 =C2=A0From: "Mark Rense" <mark44124@gmail.com>
To: genepadgett@comcast.net
Cc: "tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2015 5:35:02 PM
Subject: RE: [Tigers] high speed generator pulley =C2=A0I don=E2=80=99t thi=
nk the Hi-Po pulley has the same offset as the Tiger pulley, you will have =
to redo the mounts if that is the case to get the belt aligned.=C2=A0I=E2=
=80=99ve been through this dilemma on Tigers and other old Fords with gener=
ators. They were marginal when five grand was the upper rev limit, today mo=
st modern engine rebuilds are good for 6500 or more. Mechanically the gener=
ator is not really designed to spin at high speeds very long (Tigers run ar=
ound 3K at 70), the bearings will overheat and spall, the brushes float and=
 arc, the commutator breaks down, and then really ugly things begin to happ=
en. Going to the Hi-Po larger pulley helps but you now have a lack of curre=
nt at lower speeds from a 25% or so reduction in rpm. The combination of yo=
ur headlamps, tail lamps, gauges, fuel pump, and ignition will consume arou=
nd 270 watts, that=E2=80=99s 20 amps at 13.5 volts, and the generators I=E2=
=80=99ve had rebuilt might pump out 25 amps on a good day at max rpm, but a=
t cruising speeds you=E2=80=99re lucky to get half that. Add a GPS, cooling=
 fan or other accessory and you will run out of juice.=C2=A0So what=E2=80=
=99s the option? Obviously an alternator is the way to go, even under-drive=
n they put out three times the current. But they look so modern. As an alte=
rnative I have now installed three PowerGen alternators that look just like=
 the generator. They can generate over 30 amps at idle and are good for 700=
0 rpm engines. They ain=E2=80=99t cheap but they look just like the OEM gen=
erator. They make a one-wire and a two-wire version, the Tiger offset pulle=
y bolts right up.=C2=A0http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PWM-82101/=C2=A0=
=C2=A0The pictures are from my car.=C2=A0Bugz=C2=A0From: Tigers [mailto:tig=
ers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of genepadgett--- via Tigers
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 2:57 PM
To: Tiger's List
Subject: [Tigers] high speed generator pulley=C2=A0Hi All,=C2=A0In the book=
 Performance Tuning the Tiger there is mention and a picture of a larger th=
an stock generator pulley which slows the generator down and makes it happi=
er to be run at higher motor RPM's. =C2=A0 Call me crazy, but I would like =
to find such a pulley and keep using a generator for the totally stock look=
 on my higher reving 347 motor. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BTW, my current pulley is abo=
ut 3.25 inches in diameter.=C2=A0My current generator needs to be replaced =
and I have a remanufactured one on order. =C2=A0 It comes without a pulley.=
 =C2=A0 So as long as I have to put a pulley on it, I am thinking if I coul=
d find a la rger diameter one that would fit, why not?=C2=A0I know there ar=
e alternators now available packaged in a generator looking style case but =
I really do not want to go there at the present time.=C2=A0So does anyone k=
now anything about that larger diameter generator pulley mentioned in the b=
ook? =C2=A0 A part number? =C2=A0Maybe it is stock for some of the other ge=
nerators back in the day?=C2=A0Any and all info would be greatly appreciate=
d, and thanks in advance.=C2=A0Gene =C2=A0
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rom:</span></b> Mark Rense via Tigers &lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;<br> <b>=
<span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> genepadgett@comcast.net <=
br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> 'tigers' &lt;tigers=
@autox.team.net&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span>=
</b> Tuesday, April 7, 2015 4:53 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold=
;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Tigers] high speed generator pulley<br> </font>=
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>Also keep in mind the Tiger uses a special pulley that has a &nbsp;=C2=BC=
=E2=80=9D longer base to align with the drive pulley.</span></div><div id=
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91505166MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><sp=
an id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428452249296_14192" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> gen=
epadgett@comcast.net [mailto:genepadgett@comcast.net] <br clear=3D"none"><b=
>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 07, 2015 6:59 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> Mar=
k Rense<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> tigers<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</=
b> Re: [Tigers] high speed generator pulley</span></div></div></div><div cl=
ass=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div><div><div><div class=3D"yiv7591=
505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">Many thanks to all of you for=
 sharing your collective wisdom. &nbsp;The expertise available through all =
of you here on the List, and the willingness to share it, continues to amaz=
e.</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv759150516=
6MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">I did find what might be a useful =
under drive pulley. &nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv75915051=
66MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div></div><div><d=
iv class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;"><a rel=3D"=
nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://www.npdlink.com/=
store/products/mustang_pulley_generator_stamped_fins-100767-431.html">https=
://www.npdlink.com/store/products/mustang_pulley_generator_stamped_fins-100=
767-431.html</a></span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=
=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">But at $280 it doe=
s not make sense to spend that amount of money together with the $110 for t=
he remanufactured generator, I would have $390 invested in a solution that =
is inferior to an generator look-alike alternator for about the same amount=
 of money. &nbsp; Plus something tells me that the pulley may only be 3.75 =
inches in diameter, whick would onlu give me about a 12 percent speed reduc=
tion. &nbsp; That is based on what I see for $900 on ebay:</span></div></di=
v><div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;"> =
&nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"color:black;"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Mustang-AC-Cobra-OE-Restored-Fomoco-HI=
PO-Generator-Dynamo-/350893612053?hash=3Ditem51b2e39c15&amp;vxp=3Dmtr">http=
://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Mustang-AC-Cobra-OE-Restored-Fomoco-HIPO-Generator=
-Dynamo-/350893612053?hash=3Ditem51b2e39c15&amp;vxp=3Dmtr</a></span></div><=
/div><div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;=
"> &nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"color:black;">Cost aside, I had not factored in the possibility =
my 347 may need a pusher fan for cooling in very hot, slow speed weather/dr=
iving conditions. &nbsp;So far in 80 degree weather last year, the griffin =
radiator, 6 blade fan and reduced diameter pulley keep things nicely in the=
 desired 195-205 degree engine temp range. &nbsp;Have not had a chance to s=
ee how things go under more stressful conditions. &nbsp; Thanks Mark L for =
mentioning a cooling aspect I had not thought of. &nbsp;Hate to have a gene=
rator setup that will not drive a pusher fan near idle if it turns out I ne=
ed one.</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv7591=
505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">So for the time being I will =
just stick with the new generator and stock pulley. &nbsp; We will see it i=
t lasts through its one year replacement warranty.!</span></div></div><div>=
<div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;"> &nbsp;<=
/span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"color:black;">I learned a lot through asking the questions, thanks again e=
veryone for sharing your knowledge.</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yi=
v7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div></di=
v><div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">B=
est regards, &nbsp;Gene</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div =
class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;"> &nbsp;</span=
></div></div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:cent=
er;" align=3D"center"><span style=3D"color:black;"></span><hr id=3D"yiv7591=
505166zwchr" align=3D"center" size=3D"2" width=3D"100%"></div><div><div cla=
ss=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"">From: </span></b><span st=
yle=3D"">"Mark Rense" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mai=
lto:mark44124@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:mark44124@gmail.c=
om">mark44124@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>To: </b><a rel=3D"nofo=
llow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:genepadgett@comcast.net"; target=3D"_=
blank" href=3D"mailto:genepadgett@comcast.net";>genepadgett@comcast.net</a><=
br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc: </b>"tigers" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect=
" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto=
:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>=
Sent: </b>Monday, April 6, 2015 5:35:02 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject: </=
b>RE: [Tigers] high speed generator pulley</span></div><div><div class=3D"y=
iv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D""> &nbsp;</span></div></div><div clas=
s=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">I don=E2=80=
=99t think the Hi-Po pulley has the same offset as the Tiger pulley, you wi=
ll have to redo the mounts if that is the case to get the belt aligned.</sp=
an><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color=
:black;"></span></div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:11.0pt;">I=E2=80=99ve been through this dilemma on Tigers and oth=
er old Fords with generators. They were marginal when five grand was the up=
per rev limit, today most modern engine rebuilds are good for 6500 or more.=
 Mechanically the generator is not really designed to spin at high speeds v=
ery long (Tigers run around 3K at 70), the bearings will overheat and spall=
, the brushes float and arc, the commutator breaks down, and then really ug=
ly things begin to happen. Going to the Hi-Po larger pulley helps but you n=
ow have a lack of current at lower speeds from a 25% or so reduction in rpm=
. The combination of your headlamps, tail lamps, gauges, fuel pump, and ign=
ition will consume around 270 watts, that=E2=80=99s 20 amps at 13.5 volts, =
and the generators I=E2=80=99ve had rebuilt might pump out 25 amps on a goo=
d day at max rpm, but at cruising speeds you=E2=80=99re lucky to get half t=
hat. Add a GPS, cooling fan or other accessory and you will run out of juic=
e.</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div><div class=3D"yiv7591505=
166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D=
"color:black;"></span></div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">So what=E2=80=99s the option? Obviously an alterna=
tor is the way to go, even under-driven they put out three times the curren=
t. But they look so modern. As an alternative I have now installed three Po=
werGen alternators that look just like the generator. They can generate ove=
r 30 amps at idle and are good for 7000 rpm engines. They ain=E2=80=99t che=
ap but they look just like the OEM generator. They make a one-wire and a tw=
o-wire version, the Tiger offset pulley bolts right up.</span><span style=
=3D"color:black;"></span></div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></spa=
n></div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0=
pt;"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://ww=
w.summitracing.com/parts/PWM-82101/">http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PWM-=
82101/</a></span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div><div class=3D"yi=
v7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D"color:black;"></span></div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;">=
</span></div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:11.0pt;">The pictures are from my car.</span><span style=3D"color:black;">=
</span></div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:11.0pt;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div><div class=
=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">Bugz</span><s=
pan style=3D"color:black;"></span></div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:blac=
k;"></span></div><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.=
0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><b><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;"> Tigers [<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers=
-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@au=
tox.team.net">mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b=
>genepadgett--- via Tigers<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 06,=
 2015 2:57 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> Tiger's List<br clear=3D"none"><=
b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] high speed generator pulley</span><span style=3D"co=
lor:black;"></span></div></div></div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"color:black;">&nbsp;</span></div><div><div><div class=3D"yiv=
7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">Hi All,</span></div></div=
><div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">&n=
bsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"color:black;">In the book Performance Tuning the Tiger there is menti=
on and a picture of a larger than stock generator pulley which slows the ge=
nerator down and makes it happier to be run at higher motor RPM's. &nbsp; C=
all me crazy, but I would like to find such a pulley and keep using a gener=
ator for the totally stock look on my higher reving 347 motor. &nbsp; &nbsp=
; BTW, my current pulley is about 3.25 inches in diameter.</span></div></di=
v><div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">&=
nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"color:black;">My current generator needs to be replaced and I have a=
 remanufactured one on order. &nbsp; It comes without a pulley. &nbsp; So a=
s long as I have to put a pulley on it, I am thinking if I could find a la<=
/span><span style=3D"color:#44546A;"> </span><span style=3D"color:black;">r=
ger diameter one that would fit, why not?</span></div></div><div><div class=
=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">&nbsp;</span></div=
></div><div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:blac=
k;">I know there are alternators now available packaged in a generator look=
ing style case but I really do not want to go there at the present time.</s=
pan></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"c=
olor:black;">&nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"color:black;">So does anyone know anything about that =
larger diameter generator pulley mentioned in the book? &nbsp; A part numbe=
r? &nbsp;Maybe it is stock for some of the other generators back in the day=
?</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"color:black;">&nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">Any and all info would be greatly a=
ppreciated, and thanks in advance.</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv=
7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">&nbsp;</span></div></div>=
<div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">Gen=
e</span></div></div></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv7591505166MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div></div></div></div></div></=
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