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Re: [Tigers] Thoughts on 7" front wheels

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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Thoughts on 7" front wheels
From: Gary Winblad <garywinblad@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 22:13:11 +0000 (UTC)
Cc: tigers@autox.team.net
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
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Hi Mike,
>I don't see going to 16's, mostly because we can expect better tires  in 
>the 15" diameter, going forward...at least, based on discussions we've been  
>having with the providers (Toyo, BFG, Kumho, Hankook) to SCCA Solo.
 
Details??

Like you, I need new wheels/tires.  I decided a long time ago that 16's just
don't look proper on a Tiger, 15 sounds like the way to go.
When you figure out the optimum setup, maybe we could get a group purchase
going..  At least my car is still awaiting body and paint so the massaging can 
be
done based on wheel/tire!

Also, nobody has commented, IIRC, a solution to the wide wheel to a-arm 
clearance
problem was to use early Alpine upper arms with the bolt on ball joint..  
probably as
available (or not) as the dropped spindles but....


Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: MWood24020@aol.com
To: ross hulse <ross_hulse@sbcglobal.net>, tigers@autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 04:40:01 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Thoughts on 7" front wheels

Thank, Ross, that is very clear and helpful.
 
Unfortunately, not what I wanted to hear! ;-)
 
My problem is, if both ends of the car are set up to maximize  available 
grip, the car will push (given stock suspension) with a smaller front  
rim...running equal size tires won't address, as the rear's will have better  
sidewall/tread control . I can adjust set up to minimize, but that isn't my  
first choice.
 
I don't see going to 16's, mostly because we can expect better tires  in 
the 15" diameter, going forward...at least, based on discussions we've been  
having with the providers (Toyo, BFG, Kumho, Hankook) to SCCA Solo.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 2/2/2013 8:22:46 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
ross_hulse@sbcglobal.net writes:

Subject:  [Tigers] Thoughts on 7" front wheels

Mike,

15x7 will not work on  the front.  

The rim width and offset to keep the wheel inside the  fender will impact 
the
upper A frame before full lock.  This is why  people go with 6 inch rims on
15's in the front.

If you go to 16's  or 17's the rim will be over the A frame but have new
problems such as  rubber band size tires.  I don't know if there are other
interference  problems with large rims as I have never tried them. 

I have tried 15x7  all around and discovered this truth at a cost of 2K.
Want to buy some  custom made wheels?

Some people I am told addressed this problem by  grinding down the seam on
the A frame to get clearance.  I opted not  to weaken my suspension and went
to 15x 6 in the front and 15x7 with the  proper offsets.  

Problem solved and I am running Kumho 205/55-15  Ecsta 4X  on all 4 wheels
with no clearance problems other than gently  rolling the rear fender wells.

Ross "Commodore Blues" Hulse

I'm  about to buy some new wheels for my Tiger. Because of the lack of
quality  off the shelf wheels for our cars, I'm leaning towards 15"   
diameter
Panasports. While kind of "belly button" wheels, they are  very  well made
and reasonable cost.

The usual 6" front/7" rear  fitment has limited appeal, primarily  because 
of
the handling  compromises that result. I'd like to run 7' all around  with
equal  size tires. 

Anyone have direct experience with the 7's and clearances?  My valence is
near stock, we did do some basic smoothing, prior to the car  going to 
paint.

How  large a tire might fit? (I could see running  as small as 195/50-15 at
all four  corners).

Thanks for any  thoughts!
Mike  Wood
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