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Re: gears that mesh

To: <pirouette@charter.net>
Subject: Re: gears that mesh
From: Tom Hall <modtiger@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:06:57 -0800
At 01:55 PM 3/11/2006, you wrote:
>      O.K., time for a new thread.  Even though Bob Hokanson 
> deserves the all time 'flushing out the lurkers' award, everyone 
> glorying in their dotage is getting depressing.   Bob gets the 
> credit for this one too, since he provided the Excel sheet for 
> trans calcs on T.U. which prompts my question.
>      I'm hoping to do a 5 speed , but without a lot of experience 
> actually driving a Tiger (as contrasted with years of squirming 
> around on my back underneath one), I'm not sure what I'm seeing in 
> the numbers I get on Bob's calculator.  Steve Laifman, for one, has 
> been effusive about the advantages of the wide ratio trans in the 4 
> speed and the various 5 speeds are roughly identical in ratio to 
> this in 2nd, 3rd and 4th.  And since the .80 5th seems to be 
> relative unobtainium without greater cash outlay, I'll exclude that for now.
>      But 1st is more variable.  The drop in 1st from 2.32 to 2.78 
> made a lot of difference evidently.  The drop from 2.78 to 3.35 is 
> even greater.  Is it worth trying to fiind a 2.95 1st gear box? Is 
> dropping below the stock 2.88 rear end ratio with a 3.35 1st gear 
> box a bad idea?   My question is:  from a real world  [read 
> 'driving'] point of view, what have the 5 speed people found to be 
> good 'all around' combinations of 1st gear and rear end ratios and 
> tire size.  By 'all around' I mean something that can still 
> embarass the occasional Porsche off stop lights without hitting 6 
> grand at 10 mph and a reasonable agility in daily driving, 
> autocross, and the occasional road race  (not asking much am I?).
>      Since 5 speeds are still a relative minority, people are 
> welcome to reply off-list.  Thanks for any input!
>                                                      Chris Hill
>
>All of the 5 speed transmissions I have sold and even the one in my 
>blue Tiger are of the 2.95  first gear variety.  This is the one you 
>want to use.  The 3.35 is too low even with the 2.88 OEM 
>gearing.  Some owners have reduced their differential ratios and 
>most are happy in the 3.07 range with the 2.95 1st gear.  Those with 
>3.31 or higher (numerically) find that 1st gear is almost 
>unuseable.  I'm talking basically about street operation.  For 
>emphassis on autocross, sometimes the lower 2nd, and 3rd gears could 
>be an advantage, so you have to decide on which is most important 
>for your application.  The 2.95 1st gear T-5 is very compareable to 
>the wide ratio toploader on a driving basis, and you have the 
>benifit of the OD gear.

I always wanted to put a 3.35 ratio T-5 in my 86 SVO Mustang, cause 
the 3.50 4 cylinder 1st gear in that car is way too low.  Another 
project still in waiting.


Tom Hall
ModTiger Engineering LLC
www.tigerengineering.net




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