I would never do that! When I do my Alpine conversion, the car
will always say "Alpine" on the side. Why? Because that's what it is.
The engine may be a Buick, and the valve covers say "Offenhouser", and
it may have a Vette 6-speed, but it's still an Alpine.....just powered
by Buick, or Rover. If the rusted away Tiger is Dead...then its dead.
I believe it's a felony to use the VIN tags on another frame anyway.
Rich
> ----------
> From: brockctella@juno.com[SMTP:brockctella@juno.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 1997 2:26 PM
> To: Richard Atherton (Entex)
> Cc: rs11@elsegundoca.ncr.com; nicholsj@oakwood.org;
> tigers@autox.team.net; CoolVT@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Re[4]: The trouble with TAC / Call for consensus and
> san
>
> Go out and find aTiger that is rusted away and buy the VIN and
> Paperwork
> and add it to your car. Preserve the marque, and your not doing any
> harm.
> On Mon, 17 Mar 1997 01:51:33 -0800 "Richard Atherton (Entex)"
> <a-richat@MICROSOFT.com> writes:
> > In no way would I expect a V-8 converted Alpine to sell for
> >more
> >than a really good tiger, unless it was built for a specific purpose,
> >like Racing, where performance alone will dictate the price. The
> >regular street Tigers should get more than Alpine with an engine
> swap,
> >that would only make sense. But I ask this again, How many V-8
> >powered
> >Alpines are being touted as being Tigers? It would take a hell of a
> >lot
> >of work, to change everything that is even obviouse to make it look
> >like
> >a Tiger, and the expense to do so won't justify the return even if it
> >does get sold as a Tiger. Ok, well other than doing a quick Hack
> job
> >and selling it to some dumb car lot. These cars are not being cloned
> >like Shelby Cobra's are, so the odds of seeing a quality knock off
> are
> >nill. That's my point. Since they are not being cloned, I quess
> just
> >don't see the point in the TAC verification. That's just my opinion.
> >When I finally do my conversion, it will never be sold as a Tiger.
> It
> >will be sold as a modified Alpine that handles better, steers easier,
> >and goes faster than a Tiger....But your are correct, if it was a
> real
> >Tiger in the same shape, I would be able to get more for it, and
> thats
> >the way it should be.
> >
> >Rich
> >
> >
> >> ----------
> >> From: CoolVT@aol.com[SMTP:CoolVT@aol.com]
> >> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 1997 2:25 PM
> >> To: Richard Atherton (Entex); rs11@elsegundoca.ncr.com;
> >> nicholsj@oakwood.org; tigers@autox.team.net
> >> Subject: Re: Re[4]: The trouble with TAC / Call for
> >consensus and
> >> san
> >>
> >> Regardless of your feeling on the TAC project their is a pratical
> >side
> >> to
> >> knowing exactly what you have purchased. Most of us approach
> Tigers
> >> as a
> >> hobby and although we want to think that we aren't interested in
> the
> >> money
> >> side of the hobby it is a fact of life. When and if you or your
> >heirs
> >> decide
> >> to sell the Tiger, the market will price your car according to what
> >> the
> >> market thinks it's worth. When we purchased our Tigers how did we
> >> decide its
> >> value? Most probably the market pretty much set the price. This
> >> price was
> >> determined in part by condition and originality. Ask someone who
> >has
> >> advertised an Alpine conversion for sale and stated that it is in
> >fact
> >> a
> >> conversion, what they have been able to sell the car for. You will
> >> find in
> >> most cases that it would sell for less than a car that came from
> the
> >> factory
> >> as a Tiger.
> >> The point is that the market says that a true Tiger is worth
> more
> >> than a
> >> converted one. In the early 80's i was in the market for a 63
> Vette
> >(
> >> the
> >> only year with the split rear window). The Vette faternity is
> >> fanatical on
> >> originality with all matching numbers, etc... I looked at a bunch
> >> and many
> >> had replacement engines, transmissions, etc... I waited until i
> >> found one
> >> that was as original as possible. I paid $12,000 for the car and
> >kept
> >> it for
> >> about 9 yrs. It sold for $22,5000. The buyer said that he was
> >> willing to
> >> pay the price because the price books said that was approximately
> >what
> >> a very
> >> nice original with matching #'s was worth. Some 64 Vette owners
> had
> >a
> >> piece
> >> expertly fitted into the rear wondow to try and turn it into a
> split
> >> wondow.
> >> Serious buyers of 63's would not pay the same price for a 64 being
> >> passed
> >> off as a 63.
> >> The long and short of it is that a true Tiger is worth more at
> >sale
> >> time
> >> than a converted Alpine. The market has determined this. There is
> >> nothing
> >> wrong with someone enjoying a converted Alpine. They should just
> >> realize
> >> when they purchase that they should pay less because it will sell
> >for
> >> less
> >> later. That seems to leave only the system for determining what a
> >> real Tiger
> >> is. The TAC system will either prove its worth over time or it
> will
> >> be
> >> replaced with another system. The market will decide.
> >> By the way the sale of the "real 63 Vette" enabled me to purchase
>
> >my
> >> present Tiger and a new Jeep pick-up. I will shut up on this
> >subject
> >> in the
> >> future. Mark
> >>
> >
>
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