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Re: help! Whitworth (Long)

To: healeys@autox.team.net, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: help! Whitworth (Long)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:13:05 EDT
Cc: Rmoment@aol.com, robertlarson@worldnet.att.net, rader@interworld.net
Hi All

I was talking with Roger Moment this evening discussing the thread (no pun 
intended) on Whitworth Tread Forms and I thought that I would try and clarify 
things a bit. 

<< In a message dated 04/02/2001 12:18:50 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
 rader@interworld.net writes:
 
  << Gary:
  > Can you please give me a definition of the term "whitworth"
  > I am using it as a rally question and I want to have it correct. >>

Robert Larson responded:
 
>>For the definition of the term Whitworth it might be interesting to add 
that it is a proper name.  It came from Sir Joseph Whitworth (1803-1887) who 
wrote papers on thread form that were published by the Institution of Civil 
Engineers in England.  He has also been credited with the invention of the 
micrometer, an application of precision threads.<<

O.K., so far correct but let me elaborate further.  There are four (4) 
distinct Whitworth Thread Forms, British Standard Whitworth (BSW) which was 
the original coarse thread developed by Sir Joseph Whitworth in 1841 and used 
on things like locomotives (then) and for threading into Aluminum where a 
coarse thread is less prone to stripping than a fine one (now).  Second in 
the series was British Standard Fine (BSF) which was developed in 1908 for 
other engineering applications.  The next two (2) Whitworth Thread Forms are 
British Standard Pipe (BSP) and British Standard Pipe Tapered (BSPT).  What 
makes these all Whitworth Thread Forms is the fact that they all have a 55 
degree thread angle as well as rounded crests and roots.  American Threads 
all have 60 degree thread angles and flat crests and roots.

British Association Thread Form (BA) is a metric based form (47 1/2 degree 
thread angle) which was originally developed by the Swiss for very small 
watch and clock screws, and you will sometimes here the type referred to as 
the "Swiss Small Screw Standard".  The British adopted this thread form on 
1903 and call it the British Association Thread.  BA sizes are designated by 
the numbers 0BA through 16BA, similar to our American machine screws, but in 
the BA system, the larger numbers designate the smaller screws.  You will 
normally find BA fasteners where bolts smaller than 1/4" are required e.g., 
in instruments and electrical components.

British Standard Cycle (BSC), also known as Cycle Engineers Institute (CEI).  
Just as the name implies, this thread form is found on bicycles and 
motorcycles where the fine threads are less prone to vibrating loose.  This 
thread form has a 60 degree thread angle as with the American thread forms 
but with rounded crests and roots as the rest of the British systems.  The 
majority of the cycle fasteners are all 26 threads per inch (TPI) throughout 
all bolt diameters e.g., 1/4 X 26 TPI, 5/16 X 26 TPI, 3/8 X 26 TPI, 7/16 X 26 
TPI, etc.  To confuse matters even more, some of the older cycle threads had 
either 20 or 24 TPI.

By now anyone who has read this far and better yet who understands all of 
this has no life!

Cheers

Curt Arndt
Carlsbad, CA
'55 BN1, '60 AN5

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