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Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 11:09:36 -0600
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I am on the Roadster list trying to get some info for a friend and read
about how they handled a problem with ebay and due to their inventive
means I forwarded some info on our Spamming problem. Here is the reply
which I will now forward to our list.

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Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 10:29:42 -0600
From Mark <captainhoek at postmark.net>
To: toyman@digitex.net, Roadster List <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Subject: OT Re: Sprite Lurker Speaks plus a spam forward

Can't really help you on the Solexes, Brad, but I do have some suggestions for 
spammers.  I was getting a half dozen a day for a while there.  First, NEVER 
REPLY TO A SPAMMER.  All that does is to confirm that you are a real live 
target.  For the same reason, never try to unsubscribe by following a link the 
spammer provides.  Second, go to 

http://www.cauce.org 

and get educated.  There's a ton of good info there.  Third, DO be kind to the 
dear spammer!  HE obviously likes spam, right?  So help him out!  Go to 

http://www.globalhighway.com/guestbook.html

and sign him up!  (Assuming you have a legit email address for him.  More on 
that in a minute.)  This is a site that sells spamming software.  If you are 
stupid enough to actually sign their guest book, what kind of list do you think 
your name goes on?  Oh, this company also SELLS lists to spammers.  Are you 
getting the picture?  <VBG>

And while we're being kind to the spammer, we should not forget to call him if 
he provides an 800 number.  After all, we don't want him to feel rejected, do 
we?  So CALL! And talk. And talk.  And talk.  Repeatedly.  Many 800 numbers 
cost per call AND per minute.  Uh, don't call from your home phone.  Caller ID, 
you know.  It works for 800 numbers even if you have it blocked.  Some digital 
cell phones block it anyway, though.  <grin>

Third, learn to spot phony headers.  Most mail programs don't show the full 
email headers, as this is a pain to wade through.  But they will let you see 
them if you choose.  Learn to read the full headers, and then go to

http://network-tools.com/1/

and look up his IP address.  Chances are it's forged, but if not you now have a 
way to report him.  If he's using an overseas provider, don't contact them.  
They make their living harboring spammers.  Guess who they'll likely sell your 
name to!  If it's stateside, look up the provider and see if they have an 
anti-spam statement and contact point.  If they do, nail the puke.  They'll 
cancel his account real fast!  If he has a web site (PLEASE, people, it's web 
SITE, not SIGHT!!!!) you may be able to get his hosting service to kill his 
site. Heh heh heh heh. I've had the pleasure of doing that several times.  It's 
really nice to go back to the URL of a spammer and get 404! And learn to right 
click on a web page to see the code.  You may see some real email address 
buried in it.  Then you can sign the spammer up at his REAL email address for 
some spam of his own!  <grin>  Oh, I've had great fun doing this one!

And, yes, if the idiot provides the name of a REAL company, do forward every 
spam you get.  But be careful - if it's just a web site company they may just 
collect and re-sell your name.   Only do this if you have confirmed that it's a 
legitimate company!

The more you know, the more you can do about it!

Have fun!


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Sprite Lurker Speaks plus a spam forward at the 

DLancer7676@cs.com wrote:
> If there were a way to cut into
> the telemarketing execs pockets for interrupting my dinner I would do it.  I
> bet those kids have to take a lot of crap for their buck.   8^)
> 
> --David C.

david,
        you might have the answer here.  i've only gotten a couple of these
credit card spams, and they didn't stay on my screen long enough for
me to read them.  (i take pride in a fast 'del' key!)  has anyone
looked into these spams deep enough to find out which credit card
company the twerp is hawking?
        maybe flooding the credit card company's email system with
forwarded copies could influence them enough to take action. i
assume spam promotion like this is driven by the payment of a
commission for each card sold.  this means that the spammer can be
identified by the parent company.  if we can make it as annoying to
them as it is to us we might get some relief.

paul m
'kill the cash flow, kill the spam!'

-- 
"If the only tool you have is a hammer,
        then every problem looks like a nail!"

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