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Re: adhesive

To: relliott@cjnetworks.com
Subject: Re: adhesive
From: Bradley D Richardson <bradrichardson@juno.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 15:46:47 -0700
Thanks Roger.  Just went and bought some.  Apparently you've got to get
the right stuff, some of the spray adhesives said they might eat the
cushion foam.

Brad

========================================

On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 16:31:28 -0500 (CDT) Roger Elliott
<relliott@cjnetworks.com> writes:
> Hi,
> 
> When I did my seats i was looking at the restoration guide for 
> Spitfires,
> GT6, Heralds and Vitesses.  ( I don't remeber the exact name).  They
> indicate that you should use adhesive on the center part of both the 
> seat
> cushion and the back.  I used 3M Super trim adhesive.
> 
> Roger Elliott
> 
> On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Bradley D Richardson wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Ree,
> > 
> > My seat back covers don't have any flaps on the inside, nor does 
> it
> > appear they ever did.  The slit you talk about does exist on the 
> foam
> > though.  Neither cover has the looped flap end either.  My seat's 
> are
> > solid black vinyl, and as Doug described in his reply, it 
> certainly
> > appears the central sections should be glued down.  However, I 
> don't
> > pretend to be an expert, that's why I'm asking for help.
> > 
> > Brad
> > 
> > ======================================================= 
> > 
> > On my solid black vinyl '72 seats, the central
> > fluted sections are definitely glued down.  They
> > have to be, since all the surrounding vinyl pieces are
> > higher, and without glue nothing would hold the center
> > sections down.
> > 
> > Doug Braun
> > 
> > ==========================================================
> > 
> > On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 14:07:08 -0500 "Ree Gurley" 
> <reegurley@mindspring.com>
> > writes:
> > > Brad,
> > >    Your seat-back cover should have a flap on the back which 
> goes 
> > > into the
> > > broad slit about 1/3 the way down between the two sections of 
> foam - 
> > > then
> > > over the third (?) elastic band - then down to the bottom of the 
> 
> > > frame,
> > > where it is clipped (with enough tension to keep it snug into 
> the 
> > > "crease"
> > > between the upper and lower foam sections).  On the bottom part, 
> I 
> > > had a
> > > looped flap through which I ran strong twine -ran the twine down 
> 
> > > through the
> > > foam to the "basket" and tied it thereto.  Took me a frustrating 
> 
> > > amount of
> > > diddling to get it right; however, I didn't use any glue in my 
> > > recent seat
> > > project.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,  Ree G. in Mexico, NY  -  (sans) 78 Spit  FM73070U O
> > 
> > =========================================================
> > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Bradley D Richardson <bradrichardson@juno.com>
> > > To: <spitlist@gte.net>
> > > Cc: <spitfires@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 12:30 PM
> > > Subject: Re: adhesive
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > Joe,
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps I'm just dumb, but I did try an get them together 
> without 
> > > glue,
> > > > thinking that over time the stickiness just 'appeared'.
> > > >
> > > > The seat backs are the worst, I simply can't get the cover to 
> > > curve with
> > > > the foam's curve.  That's why I assumed glue was needed.  How 
> in 
> > > the
> > > > world did you get your covers to follow the line of the seat 
> back? 
> > >  When
> > > > I pull tight on the bottom of the back, the cover wants to go 
> > > 'straight',
> > > > instead of following the foam's lines.
> > > >
> > > > The headliner was in my 85 New Yorker, my daily driver, not my 
> 
> > > spit.
> > > > Although both of my spits do have hardtops.
> > > >
> > > > Brad
> > > >
> > > > =====================================================
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 08 Aug 2000 10:06:10 +0000 Joe Curry 
> <spitlist@gte.net> 
> > > writes:
> > > > > Brad,
> > > > > I don't think that they were glued.  The process of the 
> covers
> > > > > sticking to the foam is likely due to the aging process and 
> the 
> > > heat
> > > > > of
> > > > > the sun.  I put Houndstooth covers on my 1500 seats without 
> any
> > > > > adhesive and have had no problems in 3 years.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know about the headliner, since I don't have a hard 
> top.
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > =======================================================
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bradley D Richardson wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ok, I'm finally going to put the seat covers back on my 
> Spit's
> > > > > seats.
> > > > > > What adhesive should I use?  Since it's form fitting, and 
> > > since it
> > > > > was
> > > > > > glued to the foam before I removed them, it's obvious I 
> need 
> > > some
> > > > > kind of
> > > > > > glue.  I tried contact cement, it doesn't hold at all to 
> the 
> > > foam.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On another thought, the headliner in my daily driver is 
> > > drooping?
> > > > > > Obviously, it needs to be glued again also.  Other than 
> > > removing
> > > > > the
> > > > > > entire stinking headliner, is there some kind of gizmo 
> that 
> > > will
> > > > > let me
> > > > > > shoot the glue thru a small 'pin hole' in the liner?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brad
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ====================================================
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brad Richardson
> > > > > > Portland, Oregon
> > > > > > 79 Spitfire (FM90541U, really a 78 as made June 78)
> > > > > > 79 Spitfire (TFZDW29T001453, really a 80 as made Nov 79)
> > 
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