I have a much more cynical view on this "keeping the Triumph (and other)
name " business, I think it is so that should Phoenix wish to market a car
without the tarnished name of Rover bmw could recoup some of their hard won
cash through selling it to Phoenix for a major wad of ££'s
Graham.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark the Shark <markie@gte.net>
To: Brian Furgalus <triumph.tr7@usa.net>
Cc: Triumph mail list <triumphs@autox.team.net>; Wedge List
<tr8@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: CNN reports BMW pays Phoenix to take over
>
> I would agree with you about Phoenix only having one sportscar and that is
> and should be MG. I have to be practical here, MG is a much stronger
brand
> name when associated with British sportscars. What I disagree with is BMW
> keeping the Triumph name. Phoenix would have been much better off using
the
> Triumph name on it's next generation of Saloon's. I'm a Rover fan but the
> name has been so tarnished. I just think BMW realizes this and for
> marketing reasons held on to the Triumph marque to deny Rover. I don't
> thing they will ever use the marque, why would they with what they have
just
> gone through. No BMW executive would have the gonads to use it. Triumph
> will remain locked in a trunk in Bavaria....Unless of course BMW were to
> become a subsidiary of GM...Just think, the next generation TR9 based on a
> Camaro!
>
> Mark Ascherl
> 1981 Triumph TR8 DHC FI
> Raleigh, NC
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Furgalus" <triumph.tr7@usa.net>
> To: "Mark the Shark" <markie@gte.net>
> Cc: "Wedge List" <tr8@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 4:28 PM
> Subject: Re: CNN reports BMW pays Phoenix to take over
>
>
> > Mark,
> >
> > Actually, that is very good! Phoenix would be most likely to revive
> > only one sportscar (if any), and the public is going to be more
> > receptive of another MG. This means there is potential for renewed
> > competition in the British Sportscar arena, something that hasn't
> > happened since 1968! If BMW really wanted to, they could come out with
> > a TR9 or a new Spitfire to compete with, say, the Miata/MR2/MG-whatever,
> > in the sub-$25,000 market. I'd make bets they'd sell faster than they
> > could make them! I'd also be willing to bet just about every person on
> > this list would buy one, too. :)
> >
> > Later,
> > Brian
> >
> > Dreaming of TR9's...
> >
> > Mark the Shark wrote:
> > >
> > > I just saw this on the BBC site:
> > >
> > > BMW keeps the new Mini, to be
> > > produced at Cowley, and retains
> > > rights to the Triumph and Riley
> > > marque names. BMW had already
> > > agreed to sell Land Rover to Ford.
> > >
> > > I'm sorry to see that BMW retains rights to our hallowed marque!
> > >
> > > Mark Ascherl
> > > 1981 TR8 DHC FI
> > > Raleigh, NC
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Lawrence R Zink" <zink@pdq.net>
> > > To: "Mark the Shark" <markie@gte.net>; "Jim Altman"
> <jaltman@altlaw.com>;
> > > "'triumphs@autox. team. net' (E-mail)" <triumphs@autox.team.net>; "TR8
> List
> > > (E-mail)" <tr8@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 10:09 AM
> > > Subject: Re: CNN reports BMW pays Phoenix to take over
> > >
> > > > You bet Mark,
> > > > And how anout a new Spitfrie DOHV Turbo with a Getrag ^ speed.
> > > > Larry
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Mark the Shark <markie@gte.net>
> > > > To: Jim Altman <jaltman@altlaw.com>; 'triumphs@autox. team. net'
> (E-mail)
> > > > <triumphs@autox.team.net>; TR8 List (E-mail)
<tr8@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 8:16 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: CNN reports BMW pays Phoenix to take over
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Why didn't we pool our money together on the list and buy Rover?
> Surely
> > > we
> > > > > could have come up with $15. Then we could have gotten $766
million
> > > from
> > > > > BMW. Can you imagine the job we could do running Rover? I'm sure
> we
> > > > could
> > > > > fail just as well as BMC, Standard/Triumph, Rover, British
Leyland,
> > > > British
> > > > > Aerospace, and BMW (perhaps Phoenix?). I could just smell a TR9
in
> the
> > > > > works...
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark Ascherl
> > > > > 1981 TR8 DHC FI
> > > > > Raleigh, NC
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Jim Altman" <jaltman@altlaw.com>
> > > > > To: "'triumphs@autox. team. net' (E-mail)"
> <triumphs@autox.team.net>;
> > > "TR8
> > > > > List (E-mail)" <tr8@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 6:49 AM
> > > > > Subject: CNN reports BMW pays Phoenix to take over
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > CNN is reporting that Phoenix pays 10 Lbs for Rover, BMW pays
500
> > > > Million
> > > > > to
> > > > > > Phoenix to cover costs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://cnnfn.com/2000/05/09/europe/rover/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jim Altman jaltman@altlaw.com Illigitimi non Carborundum
> > > > > > http://www.altlaw.com/metro/jaltman.html 69-TR6 80-TR8 W4UCK
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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