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Re: [Shotimes] Poor mileage

To: `V6 SHOtimes <SHOtimes@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Poor mileage
From: "Steven W. Riggins" <mailinglists@geeksrus.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 15:40:07 -0700
So if my O2 sensors are going bad, that would make it run too rich  
and cause some of the rich fuel odor I smell from time to time?

On Jul 5, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Paul Nimz wrote:

> There is no learning for the octane.  The knock sensors fire off  
> when they
> hear noise and the timing is immediately retarded.  The new timing  
> numbers
> will automatically be adjusted no matter what or when.  Assuming  
> you knock
> sensors and the code strategy is up to it.
>
> Now the less btu content of the higher octane will have a small  
> change on the
> learned tables by requiring a slightly richer mixture when in  
> closed loop.
> But the O2s will adjust to the proper 14.6 AF ratio then start  
> saving new
> values to the adaptive tables immediately.
>
> But the WOT tables are fixed and therefore without adjustment you  
> get what you
> get.  Stock tables are way rich anyway for open loop (on the V8).
>
> I've always gotten a bit better mileage from premium, ~1-2 mpg, but  
> cost wise
> it's a draw.
>
> I do see an advantage to using premium when the ambient temp is  
> above 80F as
> the timing will stay higher.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 7/5/2006 12:21:12 PM, Juillerat, Aaron J  
> (aaronj@autojectors.com) wrote:
>> Drive like you normally would that is best.  The computer will  
>> adjust to
>> the optimum performance of the parameters
>> it's faced with.  Meaning your
>> car was use to how you drive with premium, then all the sudden you
>> dropped to regular and thus changing a parameter so it needs to learn
>> what to do with the lower octane.  You may even want to pull a  
>> battery
>> cable off and clear the computer and let it start from scratch.
>>
>> -A.J.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
>> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 1:05 PM
>> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Poor mileage
>>
>> Is that for the first few tanks, or do I always need to floor it?
>> I'm
>> usually easier on the gas than not.
>>
>> On Jul 5, 2006, at 9:35 AM, Rick Glass wrote:
>>
>>> It will improve after a couple of tanks, the computer adjusts for
>>> stuff like that......just give it more than 1 tank and
>> don't be
>>> afraid to put your foot in it, if you don't get on it, it
>> ain't
>>> gonna run right.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick Glass
>>>        '99 SF  98k
>> Flowmasters
>> Kirk'd
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