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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] suv tires
From: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2022 06:59:31 -0400
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I just replaced a set of trailer tires that had less than 2500 miles on
them because they were ten years old and definitely showing it.

I consider tires to be like oil - they should be changed at a mileage or
time interval, whichever comes first.  It's just something you have to
budget for.

On Mon, Aug 29, 2022, 02:04 Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:

> re: "How many years can a set of tires go ..."
>
> Subject to debate, and how the tires are maintained. Some--often people
> who make and sell tires--insist six years is the limit, regardless of
> mileage, and if the tires are constantly exposed to extreme weather and
> mileage that's not unreasonable. OTOH, if the tires are kept in a garage
> not subject to temperature extremes and are only used 'around town' you c=
an
> usually go more, 7 or 8 years wouldn't be too risky. At any rate, going
> beyond 10 years is pushing your luck.
>
> BUT ... for an SUV I'd be more cautious and probably observe the 6-year
> 'rule.' SUVs and other trucks are top heavy and a catastrophic
> failure--i.e. a blowout--esp. on a front tire can cause the vehicle to ro=
ll
> over. Ford just got slapped with a $1B+ liability charge for an old truck
> that had a blowout, rolled, and the cab squashed the elderly occupants. A
> couple decades ago Ford got slammed when some incorrect, improperly
> inflated Firestone tires--Ford and Firestone go WAY back--caused some fat=
al
> rollover accidents with some Explorers.
>
> My rule of thumb: If I find myself worrying about my tires, it's time for
> new. Your tires are only three years (+/-) old and, unless they're showin=
g
> 'checking'--cracking--or other damage they should be good for at least a
> couple more years. Check your tire pressures regularly (at least once a
> month).
>
>
>
> On 8/28/2022 9:19 PM, Shannah Miller wrote:
>
> Thank you, Ian, for commenting to the group.  I will
> need tires at some point, and that's good to know.
>
> That said, my car is the spare car of the family, and
> has had the same tires since 2019.  How many years
> can a set of tires go if they are just mostly used to
> putt around town?  (My car has not quite 10,000 miles
> on it.)
>
> Thanks,
> Shannah
>
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 7:20 PM Ian McFetridge <shop-talk2@mcfetridge.org=
>
> wrote:
>
>> I have had the Michelin Defender LTX on my pickup since fall 2020 and
>> they are wearing well, ride smooth and quiet.  I=E2=80=99ve used Micheli=
ns on
>> trucks since I worked in the tire dept at Sam=E2=80=99s in college.  The=
y always
>> took the least amount of weights to balance and had the least returns fo=
r
>> issues or to rebalance.  The manager at Costco said that is all still tr=
ue
>> when I bought the last set.  YMMV :)
>>
>> Best
>> Ian
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 8:03 PM john niolon <jniolon@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> shop content... I drive my suburban into my shop
>>>
>>> time for tires... always used Michelin for the last 20 years with good
>>> service... Vehicle is 2008 Suburban 1500 with 95% highway or town ...no=
 off
>>> road
>>> occasional towing my hobby truck to shows on 20' car hauler (once or
>>> twice a year with load equalizing hitch...)  Looking at reviews on my f=
irst
>>> choice Michelin Defender LTX/MS
>>> 275/55-20.   The reviews talk a lot about road noise and rough ride....=
.
>>> My current Michelin Defenders  (bought in Jan 2016 ride smooth and wear
>>> well.. 76K miles on them so far)
>>>
>>> I just turned 75 and this might be my last set of tires  [image:
>>> Grinning Face with Smiling Eyes] =E2=80=A6 so I'm looking for your thou=
ghts on
>>> Michelin or others afa mileage, ride, noise etc.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> john
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<div dir=3D"auto">I just replaced a set of trailer tires that had less than=
 2500 miles on them because they were ten years old and definitely showing =
it.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I consider tir=
es to be like oil - they should be changed at a mileage or time interval, w=
hichever comes first.=C2=A0 It&#39;s just something you have to budget for.=
</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_=
attr">On Mon, Aug 29, 2022, 02:04 Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidel=
l@comcast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    re: &quot;How many years can a set of tires go ...&quot;<br>
    <br>
    Subject to debate, and how the tires are maintained. Some--often
    people who make and sell tires--insist six years is the limit,
    regardless of mileage, and if the tires are constantly exposed to
    extreme weather and mileage that&#39;s not unreasonable. OTOH, if the
    tires are kept in a garage not subject to temperature extremes and
    are only used &#39;around town&#39; you can usually go more, 7 or 8 yea=
rs
    wouldn&#39;t be too risky. At any rate, going beyond 10 years is pushin=
g
    your luck.<br>
    <br>
    BUT ... for an SUV I&#39;d be more cautious and probably observe the
    6-year &#39;rule.&#39; SUVs and other trucks are top heavy and a
    catastrophic failure--i.e. a blowout--esp. on a front tire can cause
    the vehicle to roll over. Ford just got slapped with a $1B+
    liability charge for an old truck that had a blowout, rolled, and
    the cab squashed the elderly occupants. A couple decades ago Ford
    got slammed when some incorrect, improperly inflated Firestone
    tires--Ford and Firestone go WAY back--caused some fatal rollover
    accidents with some Explorers.<br>
    <br>
    My rule of thumb: If I find myself worrying about my tires, it&#39;s
    time for new. Your tires are only three years (+/-) old and, unless
    they&#39;re showing &#39;checking&#39;--cracking--or other damage they =
should be
    good for at least a couple more years. Check your tire pressures
    regularly (at least once a month).<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 8/28/2022 9:19 PM, Shannah Miller
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <div>Thank you, Ian, for commenting to the group.=C2=A0 I will</div=
>
        <div>need tires at some point, and that&#39;s good to know.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>That said, my car is the spare car of the family, and</div>
        <div>has had the same tires since 2019.=C2=A0 How many years</div>
        <div>can a set of tires go if they are just mostly used to</div>
        <div>putt around town?=C2=A0 (My car has not quite 10,000 miles</di=
v>
        <div>on it.)<br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Thanks,</div>
        <div>Shannah<br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 7:20
          PM Ian McFetridge &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk2@mcfetridge.org=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">shop-talk2@mcfetridge.org</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div dir=3D"auto">I have had the Michelin Defender LTX on my
            pickup since fall 2020 and they are wearing well, ride
            smooth and quiet.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve used Michelins on trucks s=
ince I
            worked in the tire dept at Sam=E2=80=99s in college.=C2=A0 They=
 always
            took the least amount of weights to balance and had the
            least returns for issues or to rebalance.=C2=A0 The manager at
            Costco said that is all still true when I bought the last
            set.=C2=A0 YMMV :)</div>
          <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
          </div>
          <div dir=3D"auto">Best=C2=A0</div>
          <div dir=3D"auto">Ian</div>
          <div><br>
            <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
              <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at
                8:03 PM john niolon &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jniolon@att.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">jniolon@att.net</a>&gt;
                wrote:<br>
              </div>
              <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                <div>
                  <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">shop
                      content... I drive my suburban into my shop</font></d=
iv>
                  <div>=C2=A0</div>
                  <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">time
                      for tires... always used Michelin for the last 20
                      years with good service... Vehicle is 2008
                      Suburban 1500 with 95% highway or town ...no off
                      road</font></div>
                  <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">occasional
                      towing my hobby truck to shows on 20&#39; car hauler
                      (once or twice a year with load equalizing
                      hitch...)=C2=A0 Looking at reviews on my first choice
                      Michelin Defender LTX/MS</font></div>
                  <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">275/55-20.=C2=A0=C2=A0
                      The reviews talk a lot about road noise and rough
                      ride..... My current Michelin Defenders=C2=A0 (bought
                      in Jan 2016 ride smooth and wear well.. 76K miles
                      on them so far)</font></div>
                  <div>=C2=A0</div>
                  <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">I just
                      turned 75 and this might be my last set of tires=C2=
=A0=C2=A0<img alt=3D"Grinning Face with Smiling Eyes" src=3D"cid:part1.BCNd=
xLKL.UPuEd01i@comcast.net" style=3D"width:24px;max-width:100%;background-co=
lor:rgba(0,0,0,0);border-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(255,255,255)" ali=
gn=3D"absMiddle">=C2=A0=E2=80=A6
                      so I&#39;m looking for your thoughts on Michelin or
                      others afa mileage, ride, noise etc.</font></div>
                  <div>=C2=A0</div>
                  <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">thanks</font></div>
                  <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">john</font></div>
                </div>
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