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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Finding a Blown Fuse (Automotive)
From: Eric Russell <ejrussell61@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2021 17:51:25 -0500
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So, the blown fuse turned out to be an I-D-10-T issue. When I crawled up
under the hood of the new (to us) motorhome to change the oil (they do not
make this an easy task...) I noticed a box way over on the left side
labeled "Battery Control Center (Fuses Inside)". And buried therein was
fuse # F17 'Cargo Lights'. Which indeed was blown. Maybe Thor (the
motorhome manufacturer) was trying to tell me to check there - but I
clearly described the place I had checked was the Ford "Power Distribution
Box".

EjR


On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 8:57 AM Eric Russell <ejrussell61@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the replies. It may be a week or more before I gather the
> energy to search for the fault again. I've already wasted two afternoons
> and have other more important things to do (getting ready to go racing in
> VRG's Turkey Bowl at Summit Point, WV). The idea of using a tone generating
> tool is interesting. Horrible Fright has a $25 version - I may give that a
> try.
>
> EjR
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 8:12 AM John <jbach@swiftrecruiters.com> wrote:
>
>> How about a GFCI outlet that has tripped?
>>
>>
>> On 11/10/2021 7:15 PM, Eric Russell wrote:
>>
>> Oh wise & beneficent Shop Talkers - I've run into a situation that has me
>> stymied. I need help locating a blown fuse in a motorhome.
>>
>> We recently bought a new (to us) motorhome. When installing the signal
>> booster for a TPMS (Tire Pressure Monitoring System) I accidentally shorted
>> a 12V wire in the cargo bay lights. There was a small spark (followed by a
>> few swear words). I then went on a hunt for the blown fuse. There are three
>> fuse panels in this motorhome. Two in the Ford chassis (F-53) - one under
>> the hood and the other inside near the parking brake - plus one in the
>> motorhome's 120V - 12V power converter. I could not find a blown fuse
>> anywhere.
>>
>> I contacted the manufacturer (Thor) who has actually been quite
>> responsive & has tried to help. After asking for my vehicle's VIN they
>> emailed me some schematics (not actual wire diagrams but more a map showing
>> the general location of outlets, switches, etc with indications of which
>> circuit they belong to). There are two schematics that appear to apply to
>> my motorhome - one indicates the cargo lights are connected to the Ford
>> panel by the parking brake, another indicates they are in circuit #6 of the
>> converter's 12V panel. Neither of those fuses are blown. While there I
>> checked all the fuses I could locate - none were blown. I've also signed up
>> to a couple of motorhome forums but have not been able to find an answer
>> there.
>>
>> Finally - my plea for help - is there any device one can use to trace
>> where a circuit originates? I've seen an electrician use a device to find
>> out what outlet goes to which breaker in our house.
>>
>> I've followed the hot wire from the cargo bay light back to where it
>> enters a wire harness along the motorhome's frame rail. I'm loath to rip
>> open the wire harness trying to chase the wire further upstream. As far as
>> I can tell there is nothing else in this circuit - everything else is
>> working properly. Of course I can live without cargo bay lights but it
>> bothers my OCD to have it not working (when I know it did before my screw
>> up).
>>
>> --
>> Eric Russell
>> Mebane, NC
>>
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>
> --
> Eric Russell
> Mebane, NC
>


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Eric Russell
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<div dir=3D"ltr">So, the blown fuse turned out to be an I-D-10-T issue. Whe=
n I crawled up under the hood of the=C2=A0new (to us) motorhome to change t=
he oil (they do not make this an easy task...) I noticed a box way over on =
the left side labeled &quot;Battery Control Center (Fuses Inside)&quot;. An=
d buried therein was fuse # F17 &#39;Cargo Lights&#39;. Which indeed was bl=
own. Maybe Thor (the motorhome manufacturer) was trying to tell me to check=
 there - but I clearly described the place I had checked was the Ford &quot=
;Power Distribution Box&quot;.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>EjR=C2=A0</div><div=
><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_attr">On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 8:57 AM Eric Russell &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:ejrussell61@gmail.com">ejrussell61@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef=
t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for =
the replies. It may be a week or more before I gather the energy to search =
for the fault again. I&#39;ve already wasted two afternoons and have other =
more important things to do (getting ready to go racing in VRG&#39;s Turkey=
 Bowl at Summit Point, WV). The idea of using a tone generating tool is int=
eresting. Horrible Fright has a $25 version - I may give that a try.=C2=A0<=
div><br></div><div>EjR=C2=A0</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 8:=
12 AM John &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jbach@swiftrecruiters.com"; target=3D"_blan=
k">jbach@swiftrecruiters.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    <p>How about a GFCI outlet that has tripped?</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div>On 11/10/2021 7:15 PM, Eric Russell
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"ltr">Oh wise &amp; beneficent Shop Talkers - I&#39;ve run
        into a situation that has me stymied. I need help locating a
        blown fuse in a motorhome.=C2=A0
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>We recently bought a new (to us) motorhome. When installing
          the signal booster for a TPMS (Tire Pressure Monitoring
          System) I accidentally=C2=A0shorted a 12V wire in the cargo bay
          lights. There was a small spark (followed by a few swear
          words). I then went on a hunt for the blown fuse. There are
          three fuse panels in this motorhome. Two in the Ford chassis
          (F-53) - one under the hood and the other inside near the
          parking brake - plus one in the motorhome&#39;s 120V - 12V power
          converter. I could not find a blown fuse anywhere.=C2=A0
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>I contacted the manufacturer (Thor) who has actually been
            quite responsive &amp; has tried to help. After asking for
            my vehicle&#39;s VIN they emailed me some schematics (not actua=
l
            wire diagrams but more a map showing the general location of
            outlets, switches, etc with indications of which circuit
            they belong to). There are two schematics that appear to
            apply to my motorhome - one indicates the cargo lights are
            connected to the Ford panel by the parking brake, another
            indicates they are in circuit #6 of the converter&#39;s 12V
            panel. Neither of those fuses are blown. While there I
            checked all the fuses I could locate - none were blown. I&#39;v=
e
            also signed up to a couple of motorhome forums but have not
            been able to find an answer there.=C2=A0</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Finally - my plea for help - is there any device one can
            use to trace where a circuit originates? I&#39;ve seen an
            electrician use a device to find out what outlet goes to
            which breaker in our house.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>I&#39;ve followed the hot wire from the cargo bay light back
            to where it enters a wire harness along the motorhome&#39;s
            frame rail. I&#39;m loath to rip open the wire harness trying t=
o
            chase the wire further upstream. As far as I can tell there
            is nothing else in this circuit - everything else is working
            properly. Of course I can live without cargo bay lights but
            it bothers my OCD to have it not working (when I know it did
            before my screw up).=C2=A0<br clear=3D"all">
            <div><br>
            </div>
            -- <br>
            <div dir=3D"ltr">
              <div dir=3D"ltr">Eric Russell
                <div>Mebane, NC</div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
      </div>
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