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Re: [Shop-talk] Finding a Blown Fuse (Automotive)

To: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>, Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Finding a Blown Fuse (Automotive)
From: Eric Russell <ejrussell61@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 20:11:24 -0500
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> How are you verifying that the fuses are good? If you are just looking at
them, they may still be bad or making a poor connection. Use a volt meter &
measure voltage on both ends of the fuses to verify them.

Initially, I just pulled the likely fuses for a visual inspection. When
that came up empty, I used my Horrible Fright ohm meter to confirm
continuity between the two terminals of the fuses. I've swapped in known
good fuses to no avail. I have checked (at least visually) every fuse I can
locate. I am 99% certain there must be another fuse somewhere.  If you have
experience working on motorhomes you'll know anything is possible...

Me no see video - link missing?

> I can walk you through the troubleshooting if you need help.

Yes, please - t y p e    s l o w l y . . .

EjR

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 8:01 PM Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote:

> Here's a video of using the tool. Since you have only one wire, the other
> clip should go to groud.
>
> Peace,
>
> Pat
> On 11/10/2021 6:15 PM, Eric Russell wrote:
>
> Oh wise & beneficent Shop Talkers - I've run into a situation that has me
> stymied. I need help locating a blown fuse in a motorhome.
>
> We recently bought a new (to us) motorhome. When installing the signal
> booster for a TPMS (Tire Pressure Monitoring System) I accidentally shorted
> a 12V wire in the cargo bay lights. There was a small spark (followed by a
> few swear words). I then went on a hunt for the blown fuse. There are three
> fuse panels in this motorhome. Two in the Ford chassis (F-53) - one under
> the hood and the other inside near the parking brake - plus one in the
> motorhome's 120V - 12V power converter. I could not find a blown fuse
> anywhere.
>
> I contacted the manufacturer (Thor) who has actually been quite responsive
> & has tried to help. After asking for my vehicle's VIN they emailed me some
> schematics (not actual wire diagrams but more a map showing the general
> location of outlets, switches, etc with indications of which circuit they
> belong to). There are two schematics that appear to apply to my motorhome -
> one indicates the cargo lights are connected to the Ford panel by the
> parking brake, another indicates they are in circuit #6 of the converter's
> 12V panel. Neither of those fuses are blown. While there I checked all the
> fuses I could locate - none were blown. I've also signed up to a couple of
> motorhome forums but have not been able to find an answer there.
>
> Finally - my plea for help - is there any device one can use to trace
> where a circuit originates? I've seen an electrician use a device to find
> out what outlet goes to which breaker in our house.
>
> I've followed the hot wire from the cargo bay light back to where it
> enters a wire harness along the motorhome's frame rail. I'm loath to rip
> open the wire harness trying to chase the wire further upstream. As far as
> I can tell there is nothing else in this circuit - everything else is
> working properly. Of course I can live without cargo bay lights but it
> bothers my OCD to have it not working (when I know it did before my screw
> up).
>
> --
> Eric Russell
> Mebane, NC
>
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-- 
Eric Russell
Mebane, NC

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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; How are you verifying that the fuses are good? If you=
 are just looking at them, they may still be bad or making a poor connectio=
n. Use a volt meter &amp; measure voltage on both ends of the fuses to veri=
fy them.<p>Initially, I just pulled the likely fuses for a visual inspectio=
n. When that came up empty, I used my Horrible Fright ohm meter to confirm =
continuity between the two terminals of the fuses. I&#39;ve swapped in know=
n good fuses to no avail. I have checked (at least visually) every fuse I c=
an locate. I am 99% certain there must be another fuse somewhere.=C2=A0 If =
you have experience working on motorhomes you&#39;ll know anything is possi=
ble...=C2=A0</p><p>Me no see video - link missing?=C2=A0</p><p>&gt; I can w=
alk you through the troubleshooting if you need help.=C2=A0</p><p>Yes, plea=
se -=C2=A0t y p e=C2=A0 =C2=A0 s l o w l y . . .=C2=A0</p><p>EjR=C2=A0</p><=
/div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O=
n Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 8:01 PM Pat Horne &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:patintexas@i=
cloud.com">patintexas@icloud.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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    <p>Here&#39;s a video of using the tool. Since you have only one wire,
      the other clip should go to groud.</p>
    <p>Peace,</p>
    <p>Pat<br>
    </p>
    <div>On 11/10/2021 6:15 PM, Eric Russell
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"ltr">Oh wise &amp; beneficent Shop Talkers - I&#39;ve run
        into a situation that has me stymied. I need help locating a
        blown fuse in a motorhome.=C2=A0
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>We recently bought a new (to us) motorhome. When installing
          the signal booster for a TPMS (Tire Pressure Monitoring
          System) I accidentally=C2=A0shorted a 12V wire in the cargo bay
          lights. There was a small spark (followed by a few swear
          words). I then went on a hunt for the blown fuse. There are
          three fuse panels in this motorhome. Two in the Ford chassis
          (F-53) - one under the hood and the other inside near the
          parking brake - plus one in the motorhome&#39;s 120V - 12V power
          converter. I could not find a blown fuse anywhere.=C2=A0
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>I contacted the manufacturer (Thor) who has actually been
            quite responsive &amp; has tried to help. After asking for
            my vehicle&#39;s VIN they emailed me some schematics (not actua=
l
            wire diagrams but more a map showing the general location of
            outlets, switches, etc with indications of which circuit
            they belong to). There are two schematics that appear to
            apply to my motorhome - one indicates the cargo lights are
            connected to the Ford panel by the parking brake, another
            indicates they are in circuit #6 of the converter&#39;s 12V
            panel. Neither of those fuses are blown. While there I
            checked all the fuses I could locate - none were blown. I&#39;v=
e
            also signed up to a couple of motorhome forums but have not
            been able to find an answer there.=C2=A0</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Finally - my plea for help - is there any device one can
            use to trace where a circuit originates? I&#39;ve seen an
            electrician use a device to find out what outlet goes to
            which breaker in our house.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>I&#39;ve followed the hot wire from the cargo bay light back
            to where it enters a wire harness along the motorhome&#39;s
            frame rail. I&#39;m loath to rip open the wire harness trying t=
o
            chase the wire further upstream. As far as I can tell there
            is nothing else in this circuit - everything else is working
            properly. Of course I can live without cargo bay lights but
            it bothers my OCD to have it not working (when I know it did
            before my screw up).=C2=A0<br clear=3D"all">
            <div><br>
            </div>
            -- <br>
            <div dir=3D"ltr">
              <div dir=3D"ltr">Eric Russell
                <div>Mebane, NC</div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
      </div>
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