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To: David Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com> 2903e8d5c8f:6.0.391,18.0.761,17.0.607.475.0000000 definitions=2021-05-04_08:2021-05-04_02,2021-05-04_08,2020-04-07_01 signatures=0 phishscore=0 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 suspectscore=0 clxscore=1015 mlxscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2105040111
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Parts annoyance
From: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 09:52:14 -0500
Cc: shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
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Surprisingly she got another Ford & kept the old one for ranch use. She is a 
real estate broker & uses her good truck to show ranches. Had to be a class 
truck. When she is working her longhorn cattle, not so much. 

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


On May 3, 2021, at 9:26 PM, David Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com> wrote:


> 
> On May 3, 2021, at 15:00, Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> All the electronics that is going into vehicles is hard to deal with 
> troubleshooting even with factory equipment. We need to more thoroughly train 
> mechanics in these areas, & fast!
> 
> A friend of mine has a (I think) out of warranty 2017 F150 that works in fine 
> except the radiator fan would always run @ full speed. The dealer couldnâ??t 
> figure out what the problem was after 3 days so she bought a new truck so she 
> wouldnâ??t have to listen to it. She was told that there were 27 computers in 
> the truck & if any of them was bad it could cause odd problems not related to 
> what that computer controlled.

I hope she made it clear to the dealer why she was trading it in on a
Chevy. That's a bull answer, from someone who is either incompotent, a
fraud, or lazy.  (or all three, they do work for a dealer....) and the
sort of thing that gives dealers a bad name.  I'd have called the
regional service manager, and politely asked why their dealer says a
four year old truck is unfixable.

> Glad you could troubleshoot the problem rather than shotgunning it as a lot 
> of technicians would do.
> 

The bus had already had $10K in parts cannon shot at.

To be fair to the shops, a lot of that was stuff it needed, it does
have 450k on the clock, is a 6.0 powerstroke[1], and was home to a
large number of mice.  But Iâ??m pretty sure there was $1 or $2k  in
labor to fail to find the battery drain problem, and I think some of
the stuff one of the shops did was unnecessary.

[1] what an amazing lump of crap.  Putting it in an econoline chassis
is even stupider, the heat kills everything, and it's impossible to
work on it.
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