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Re: [Shop-talk] Parts annoyance

To: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>, David Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Parts annoyance
From: Jack Brooks <JIBrooks@live.com>
Date: Mon, 3 May 2021 21:50:10 +0000
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Thread-topic: [Shop-talk] Parts annoyance
Everybody must use the same computers.  27 computers was the same number the 
Subaru dealer used to try to push us into buying the extended warrantee.  

Iâ??m thinking an chip on a board is considered a computer for warrantee 
purposes..........

Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Pat Horne
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 1:00 PM
To: David Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com>
Cc: Shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Parts annoyance

All the electronics that is going into vehicles is hard to deal with 
troubleshooting even with factory equipment. We need to more thoroughly train 
mechanics in these areas, & fast!

A friend of mine has a (I think) out of warranty 2017 F150 that works in fine 
except the radiator fan would always run @ full speed. The dealer couldnâ??t 
figure out what the problem was after 3 days so she bought a new truck so she 
wouldnâ??t have to listen to it. She was told that there were 27 computers in 
the truck & if any of them was bad it could cause odd problems not related to 
what that computer controlled. 
Glad you could troubleshoot the problem rather than shotgunning it as a lot of 
technicians would do. 

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


On May 3, 2021, at 2:49 PM, David Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com> wrote:

I was working on a Ford e450 with a giant parasitic draw. (6+ amps , key 
off). Tracked the problem down to the pcm not shutting down, because the 
instrument panel computer didnâ??t tell it was in park. (Why does the pcm trust 
the transmission for everything but park?)  the failed part, a switch connected 
to the shift interlocking, is $20, but not available until â??June or July â??. 
 Turns out the switch actually works, but some knuckle head plugged it in wrong 
and bent the pins. I took the connector apart, straightened the pins enough to 
plug it in and then reassembled the connector.  Everything works, but it feels 
hackish. (Less hackish than the backup
Plan to solder it together, I guess?). 


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