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Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor

To: "patintexas@icloud.com" <patintexas@icloud.com>, "marka@maracing.com" <marka@maracing.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 11:50:35 +0000 (UTC)
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 Not much you can do other than move.=C2=A0 ;-)
Perhaps some sort of automatic drain will make the task less arduous.=C2=A0=
 The compressor here at work has a solenoid valve that is actuated for 5 or=
 so seconds every time the compressor cycles off.=C2=A0 Set and forget.
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Dave=20

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From: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
To: Mark Andy <marka@maracing.com>
Cc: ShopTalk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 12, 2020 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor

I=E2=80=99m in central Texas with a 60 gallon compressor with a small point=
 of use water precipitator at my blast cabinet. EVen draining the tank dail=
y the precipitator About every 10 minutes. There is also a Dick sander runn=
ing on the same compressor. The compressor cycles so I=E2=80=99m using abou=
t 10 CFM. Much more water than I=E2=80=99d like.=C2=A0
Currently 93=C2=B0 & 45%
Peace,Pat

Pat Horne=C2=A0We support Habitat for Humanity

On Aug 12, 2020, at 11:31 AM, Mark Andy <marka@maracing.com> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFHowdy,
Are you painting or in a super high humidity environment or something?=C2=
=A0 My experience with compressors is that mostly I can remember to drain t=
he tank every now and then and it all "just works" without any elaborate co=
olers / separators / whatever.

YMMV.

Mark
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 11:53 AM Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com> wrote=
:


The transmission cooler I=E2=80=99m looking to use is a "stacked plate=E2=
=80=9D design, and has a pressure rating of 200 PSI.=C2=A0 It says it has a=
=C2=A029,200 BTU rating:
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/BMM-70274

I do plan to put a small box fan to blow through it as well.
Here are some pictures, but these all seem to be between the compressor and=
 tank, mine will be mounted on the wall after the tank.
https://www.cnccookbook.com/aftercooling-a-compressor-to-cut-down-on-moistu=
re/

-Darrell


On Aug 12, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com> wrote:
Good point.=C2=A0 I hadn't thought of air flow rate.=C2=A0 Hook several in =
parallel?
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 11:26 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:

 That's a clever idea.=C2=A0 It is an excellent heat exchanger and is good =
for the pressure.=C2=A0 But it could restrict air flow.=C2=A0 Most are just=
 a long, serpentine tube with fins.=C2=A0 It all depends on what air tools =
you are using.=C2=A0 It is possible that you couldn't run a sand blast cabi=
net through it.=C2=A0 But you could hook up the high volume users to bypass=
 the cooler and save the dry air for the tools that need it.
=20
Dave=20

=20
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From: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com>
To: shop-talk@autox.team.net <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 12, 2020 10:12 am
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor



On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 11:08 AM Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote:


I=E2=80=99d be concerned with using a transmission cooler for an aIr cooler=
 because they are not designed for pressure use. I wouldn=E2=80=99t think a=
 trans cooler would need to be rated at more than 10psi.=20

An air conditioner condenser would probably be better.=C2=A0 It even has "c=
ondenser" in the name....=C2=A0____________________________________________=
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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size=3D"3">Not much you can do other than move.&nbsp; ;-)</font=
></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">Perhaps some sort of automatic drain will make the ta=
sk less arduous.&nbsp; The compressor here at work has a solenoid valve tha=
t is actuated for 5 or so seconds every time the compressor cycles off.&nbs=
p; Set and forget.</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----=
Original Message-----<br>
From: Pat Horne &lt;patintexas@icloud.com&gt;<br>
To: Mark Andy &lt;marka@maracing.com&gt;<br>
Cc: ShopTalk &lt;shop-talk@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Aug 12, 2020 12:33 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor<br>
<br>

<div id=3D"yiv8838251559">
<div>I=E2=80=99m in central Texas with a 60 gallon compressor with a small =
point of use water precipitator at my blast cabinet. EVen draining the tank=
 daily the precipitator About every 10 minutes. There is also a Dick sander=
 running on the same compressor. The compressor cycles so I=E2=80=99m using=
 about 10 CFM. Much more water than I=E2=80=99d like.&nbsp;
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Currently 93=C2=B0 &amp; 45%</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Peace,</div>

<div>Pat</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;
<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"yiv8838251559yqt8495065296" id=3D"yiv8838251559yqtfd95035"><b=
r clear=3D"none">On Aug 12, 2020, at 11:31 AM, Mark Andy &lt;marka@maracing=
.com&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"yiv8838251559yqt8495065296" id=3D"yiv8838251559yqtfd26371">=
=EF=BB=BF
<div dir=3D"ltr">Howdy,
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Are you painting or in a super high humidity environment or something?=
&nbsp; My experience with compressors is that mostly I can remember to drai=
n the tank every now and then and it all "just works" without any elaborate=
 coolers / separators / whatever.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">YMMV=
.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Mark</div>
</div>
<br clear=3D"none">
<div class=3D"yiv8838251559gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"yiv8838251559gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at =
11:53 AM Darrell Walker &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:darrellw360@mac.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:darrellw360@mac=
.com">darrellw360@mac.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv8838251559gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
<div style=3D"">
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
The transmission cooler I=E2=80=99m looking to use is a "stacked plate=E2=
=80=9D design, and has a pressure rating of 200 PSI.&nbsp; It says it has a=
&nbsp;29,200 BTU rating:
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://w=
ww.summitracing.com/parts/BMM-70274">https://www.summitracing.com/parts/BMM=
-70274</a><br clear=3D"none">
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>I do plan to put a small box fan to blow through it as well.</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Here are some pictures, but these all seem to be between the compresso=
r and tank, mine will be mounted on the wall after the tank.</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://w=
ww.cnccookbook.com/aftercooling-a-compressor-to-cut-down-on-moisture/">http=
s://www.cnccookbook.com/aftercooling-a-compressor-to-cut-down-on-moisture/<=
/a></div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>-Darrell</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none">
<div><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>On Aug 12, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Jeff Scarbrough &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" s=
hape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fishplate@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:fishplate@gmail.com";>fishplate@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<br clear=3D"none">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Good point.&nbsp; I hadn't thought of air flow rate.&nbsp;=
 Hook several in parallel?</div>
<br clear=3D"none">
<div class=3D"yiv8838251559gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"yiv8838251559gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at =
11:26 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mai=
lto:dave1massey@cs.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com=
">dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv8838251559gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">

<div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font=
-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">

<div> <font size=3D"3">That's a clever idea.&nbsp; It is an excellent heat =
exchanger and is good for the pressure.&nbsp; But it could restrict air flo=
w.&nbsp; Most are just a long, serpentine tube with fins.&nbsp; It all depe=
nds on what air tools you are using.&nbsp; It is possible that you couldn't=
 run a sand blast cabinet through it.&nbsp; But you could hook up the high =
volume users to bypass the cooler and save the dry air for the tools that n=
eed it.</font><br clear=3D"none">
</div>



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</div>



<div style=3D"clear:both;"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br clear=3D"none">
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<div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:10pt;">-----Original M=
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lto:fishplate@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fishplate@gmail.c=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 11:08 AM Pat Horne &lt;<a rel=3D"n=
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I=E2=80=99d be concerned with using a transmission cooler for an aIr cooler=
 because they are not designed for pressure use. I wouldn=E2=80=99t think a=
 trans cooler would need to be rated at more than 10psi. </blockquote></div=
>



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<div>An air conditioner condenser would probably be better.&nbsp; It even h=
as "condenser" in the name....&nbsp;</div>

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