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Re: [Shop-talk] attic fan switches (does this exist?)

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] attic fan switches (does this exist?)
From: Peter Murray <peterwmurray@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:00:01 -0400
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My solution is to have a switch in-line with the thermostat, in our
upstairs hallway. When I don't want to hear the fan at 11pm, I switch it
off.

My fan in my attic has the standard mechanical thermostat that came with
it. I think I set it a hair too low, or the hysteresis is too broad,
because it'll still be running at 11pm. Then again, we've had 27+ days of
90+ here in Northern Virginia. It is nearly 11am here now and 89 degrees,
and the fan is not on yet. (Hmm, did I turn the switch back on?)

I know, Pat's heart bleeds for me.

I like the idea of making operation of the fan a bit more sophisticated,
but writing Arduino code is likely more than my wife, 3 kids under 8 and
self-employment will allow. I'm looking at Home Assistant and some Z-Wave
devices, but need to do more research before I start spending on hardware.

The problem I'd had was that I wanted the fan to run to reduce melting when
we had ice dams developing at the roof edge. Of course, the proper solution
is to improve my insulation up there!

-Peter

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:18 AM Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote:

> I=E2=80=99m not familiar with x-10 but I assume you will be using like a
> controller for a table lamp where the output is a socket. If you have a
> controller with isolated contacts it=E2=80=99s even easier.
>
> If you want the x-10 to override  the thermostat so that the fan runs
> until you turn it off, all you need to do plug a relay into the controlle=
r
> & wire its normally open contacts across the thermostat.
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Pat Horne
> We support Habitat for Humanity
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2020, at 5:34 AM, eric@megageek.com wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BFI have an attic fan that is on a thermostatic switch.
>
> I was wondering if there was a way that I can have it on a  thermostatic
> switch AND a remote switch (like X-10)
>
> What happens is that  I want to turn on the fan on some nights or days,
> but it isn't hot enough to trigger it to go off.  If I reduce the
> temperature setting, it stays on most on the time.
>
> But I do want it to go on if it gets too hot when I'm not home.
>
> Is there anything like this on the market?  I also couldn't figure out ho=
w
> to wire 2 separate switches safely to accomplish this.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mule
>
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> being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph
> Waldo Emerson
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>My solution is to have a switch in-line with the ther=
mostat, in our upstairs hallway. When I don&#39;t want to hear the fan at 1=
1pm, I switch it off.<br></div><div><br></div><div>My fan in my attic has t=
he standard mechanical thermostat that came with it. I think I set it a hai=
r too low, or the hysteresis is too broad, because it&#39;ll still be runni=
ng at 11pm. Then again, we&#39;ve had 27+ days of 90+ here in Northern Virg=
inia. It is nearly 11am here now and 89 degrees, and the fan is not on yet.=
 (Hmm, did I turn the switch=C2=A0back on?)<div><br></div><div>I know, Pat&=
#39;s heart bleeds for me.</div><div></div></div><div><br></div><div>I like=
 the idea of making operation of the fan a bit more sophisticated, but writ=
ing Arduino code is likely more than my wife, 3 kids under 8 and self-emplo=
yment will allow. I&#39;m looking at Home Assistant and some Z-Wave devices=
, but need to do more research before I start spending on hardware.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>The problem I&#39;d had was that I wanted the fan to run =
to reduce melting when we had ice dams developing at the roof edge. Of cour=
se, the proper solution is to improve my insulation up there!</div><div><br=
></div><div>-Peter</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:18 AM Pat Horne &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:patintexas@icloud.com";>patintexas@icloud.com</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"=
>I=E2=80=99m not familiar with x-10 but I assume you will be using like a c=
ontroller for a table lamp where the output is a socket. If you have a cont=
roller with isolated contacts it=E2=80=99s even easier.=C2=A0<div><br></div=
><div>If you want the x-10 to override =C2=A0the thermostat so that the fan=
 runs until you turn it off, all you need to do plug a relay into the contr=
oller &amp; wire its normally open contacts across the thermostat.=C2=A0</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pat<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Hor=
ne=C2=A0<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jul 30, 2020, at 5:34 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:eric@megage=
ek.com" target=3D"_blank">eric@megageek.com</a> wrote:<br><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I have an attic fan=
 that is on a thermostatic
switch.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I was wondering if there was a way=
 that
I can have it on a =C2=A0thermostatic switch AND a remote switch (like
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">What happens is that =C2=A0I want =
to
turn on the fan on some nights or days, but it isn&#39;t hot enough to trig=
ger
it to go off.=C2=A0 If I reduce the temperature setting, it stays on most
on the time.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">But I do want it to go on if it ge=
ts
too hot when I&#39;m not home.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Is there anything like this on the=
 market?
=C2=A0I also couldn&#39;t figure out how to wire 2 separate switches safely
to accomplish this.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Any ideas?</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Thanks.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Mule<br>
<br>
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