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Subject: Re: tractor rec's
From: Mike Sloane <msloane@att.net>
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 17:26:43 -0500
TONY CLARK wrote:
Actually, the truth is that the Cub PTO ran at engine speeds (about three times 
faster than the "standard" PTO. Part of the reason was that it was much less 
expensive to manufacture, and IH was going after the market that was made up of 
the last farmers still using mules and horses for working their small farms, 
many of them coming back from W.W.II, having seen what mechanized equipment 
could do for them for the first time. On the other hand, IH did provide a wide 
variety of implements tailored to the capabilities of the smaller tractor. As 
far as the 12 hp rating, that is the rating at the drawbar, not the flywheel, 
which is the way modern engine manufacturers rate their engines. That is why it 
will out pull a modern tractor rated at twice the power. And yes, you could 
damage the lower casting if you aren't careful, but I have never had a problem.

The reason I know so much about this stuff is that I have 5 Cubs in my barn at 
the moment (as well as a Farmall 140, International 240U, Farmall 340, Farmall 
706, Ford 2N, Ford 860, Farmall H, Farmall Super M, and a Case 430 CK). All of 
my tractors were purchased for under $3000, and most of them a lot cheaper. I 
just spent the day moving a large pile of debris left from demolishing a 
concrete outbuilding on a neighbor's property. I used my $2000 Case 430 CK and 
it never missed a beat. You can see most of these tractors at the Website below 
or at <www.fotki.com> if you do a search on: mikesloane.

Mike



> Dave wrote:


>>>><snip>  My Dad bought a small International Harvester tractor in primo
>>>>
> condition at a good  price, then found out that though standard-size 
>attachments
> would fit the three-point, the PTO:
> 
>    A) had a smaller than standard spline
>    B) turned in the opposite direction from normal
>    C) turned at about half the RPM of normal  (actually, much faster than the
> normal 540 rpm speed)
> 
> That would have to be the International Harvestor Farmall Cub.  The 
>non-standard
> PTO was just one of its quirks . . I still marvel at the single chunk of cast
> iron that served as:
> 
> 1.  the front axle mount
> 2.  the mount pad for the front cultivator
> 3.  the front motor mount
> 4. the steering gearbox
>     and not the least:
> 3. the bottom tank of the radiator!
> 
> It was a four cylinder water cooled motor of only about 12 horsepower, 
>regularly
> out performed by single cylinder air-cooled lawn tractors.
> 
> A side note involves Kubota . . .When they surveyed the US market, they chose 
>to
> copy the Cub weird PTO configuration  and built the small  B6000 accordingly!
> They quickly learned their error and have gone on to become one of the largest
> manufacturer of tractors in the world.
> 
> Tony in Texas
>


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