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!Re: MIG Welder

To: "PHINNEY,HARRY K (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" <harry_phinney@hp.com>,
Subject: !Re: MIG Welder
From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:20:16 -0600
Harry I don't have your experience welding.... but I know enough to second
your opinion .... I personally have a SP100 mig... and a 275 tig?  a square
wave.. both Lincoln's and I'm happy with both of them.... I also have a pro
Cut 40 Plasma machine that is awesome.

So basically I can Stick ( poorly..) Mig or TIG.... but when it was about
Brand names I went with what was serviced locally...  and I bought my
Machines from the Lincoln dealer up in Louisville KY and he ships to the
world and has Killer Pricing....( he also sells Miller )  don't know his
name off the top of my head but look it up with Lincoln.... they should be
able to set you straight.

For Stands by the way I got a couple of 100 dollar Craftsman 3 drawer
cabinets and mounted it all on top.... with racks mounted directly to the
top of the box... Works out great as the helmets fit in that Big open
bottom shelf and all my welding supplies go in the drawers... 

Keith Turk ( http://downtown.ala.net/~kturk

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> From: PHINNEY,HARRY K (HP-Corvallis,ex1) <harry_phinney@hp.com>
> To: 'John Viviani' <geeno@adelphia.net>; Ronald Olds <tr6@pipeline.com>;
shop-talk@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: MIG Welder
> Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 7:41 PM
> 
> 
> John Viviani wrote:
> >  The sheetmetal guy at work (I work a well known auto 
> >  restoration
> >  shop), Won't touch anything else, of course an entry level 
> >  Miller is a
> >  little more than a Lincoln etc... But is well worth it in 
> >  quality and resale
> >  value 
> 
> This is not accurate. The price/quality difference between Miller and
> Lincoln comes down to marketing. ITW (Illinois Tool Works) sells their
> lowest-end welders under the Hobart name through mass market channels
(e.g.
> Home Depot), and their higher end machines under the Miller name through
> welding shops. Lincoln sells their entire line under one brand name, but
> similarly partitions their line between the channels, again selling only
> their lower end machines through the mass market stores. There are very
> comparable machines from Miller/Hobart and Lincoln at virtually every
price
> point and every process or style (MIG, TIG, Stick, engine driven,
inverter,
> etc). Dealer support and resale value is virtually identical as well.
I've
> used several different machines from both Miller and Lincoln, and my
choice
> between the two would depend on the exact price/capability point I was
> looking at. I would also recommend looking closely at ThermalArc
machines.
> ThermalArc and ITW bought up different parts of Hobart's product line,
with
> ITW getting the Hobart name for machines, and ThermalArc getting at least
> part of Hobart's engineering staff as well. ThermalArc have some very
nice
> looking MIG machines in their "Fabricator" line. I own a ThermalArc TIG
> machine and have nothing but good things to say about it. I also recently
> bought a Lincoln PowerMig 255 after having used a Millermatic 250x quite
a
> bit. I much prefer the PowerMig to the 250x. The 250x was good when using
> reasonably big wire, but did not work well at all with .024 wire. The
> PowerMig has a very nice arc on everything I've used it on, from 22 gauge
> steel to 1/4" aluminum.
> 
> Harry Phinney

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