In what vehicles would one find these Toyota engines??
Dave Shier
www.mtntown.com
"Schorn, Tim" wrote:
> Mark and all,
> You're right about the new GM I-6, but while we're waiting on
> availability not to mention performance parts (ie TURBOS), what would really
> make that old truck dance is a Toyota Supra Twin-Turbo I-6 tuned to
> around...say 600rwhp!!!!! Now keep an open mind about the Oriental thing
> while you learn this is a truck motor they stole from US back in the 60's
> updated to millenium technology!! You can always swap the valve cover to
> carbon fibre if you don't like the logo!! YEEEEEEEEEEHAWWWWWWWW!!!!!!
>
> Tim in Ft Worth
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MarkNoakes@aol.com [SMTP:MarkNoakes@aol.com]
> > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 5:37 AM
> > To: oletrucks@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Mileage/Smog and oletrucks (and the future)
> >
> > 1--The Corvette/Camaro/Firebird TPI L98 is a good engine for a truck.
> > It's
> > designed more for low end torque, and they're pretty clean. . .I know
> > someone
> > in GA that runs a street-prepared class race prepped vette w/o the
> > catalytic
> > converters and it still passes the sniffer inspections. I run mine in the
> >
> > same street-prepared class but have a free flow cat installed. TN doesn't
> >
> > have sniffer inspections but I assume mine's even cleaner than the guy w/o
> >
> > the cats. Later EFI vettes, etc went to high rpm engines (LT1, LT4) and
> > moved the torque way up on the curve; I would assume that these wouldn't
> > make
> > good truck engines. Gas mileage depends as much on transmission and final
> >
> > gearing, but my 86 vette as modified gets 27 mpg on the highway and does
> > 0-60
> > in around 6 seconds. At first I was afraid of the complexity of these
> > engines, but it has proved to be easy to work on. Now if there were only
> > a
> > good/cheap way to make it look retro. . .
> >
> > 2--My wife drives a 97 Jeep Wrangler Sahara with the 4.0 L EFI in-line
> > six,
> > and it meets all of the more recent cleaner burn standards. It would be a
> >
> > relatively easy swap as the physical size is pretty close to the 235, but
> > I
> > have not been happy with the power, gas mileage, or reliability of this
> > setup
> > (but then again, my daily driver is the race prepped vette in #1). . .but
> > my
> > wife loves it so I'm stuck with it.
> >
> > 3--Didn't I hear that Chevy was reintroducing an inline six? It would be
> > clean to the latest standards as well.
> >
> > Mark Noakes
> > Knoxville, TN
> > 58/56 Chevy Suburban 2wd 350 V8 3speed w/OD in progress
> > 59 GMC Suburban V8/Hydramatic looking for a 1/2 ton NAPCO kit and a V8,
> > destined for straight stock resto
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/25/01 6:01:45 PM, jforbes@primenet.com writes:
> >
> > << > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:48:33 -0600
> > > From: bob_keeland@usgs.gov
> > > Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Mileage/Smog and oletrucks (and the future)
> > >
> > > Actually I think that Jim Forbes has done a very good job of tying the
> > > previous thread (that was straying) back to oletrucks. The motor I am
> > > planning to put into my 51 is a mid 60s 283, obviously not an
> > > environmentally friendly motor as it was produced before smog control.
> > If
> > > I want to put a more modern, less polluting, environmentally friendly
> > motor
> > > in my truck, what years should I look at for the donor vehicle?
> > >
> > > BobK
> > > 51 3600 5-window (project)
> > > 98 RAM (hers)
> > > 99 HD Sportster
> > > Arnaudville, LA
> >
> > Bob--
> >
> > You can use whatever you can get ahold of. If you
> > want a nice performing engine, with some challenges
> > to install (specifially the fuel system and the air
> > intake, among others), try a Chevy Tuned Port 305 or
> > 350 from a Camaro, Vette, or Firebird from about
> > 1985 to the early 90s. The truck and passenger car
> > throttle body injected V-8s from the same era are
> > also decent engines, just not as performace
> > oriented...and probably a bit easier to install,
> > because they don't have the air intake right where
> > your cooling fan is. The V-6 is also ok, if you get
> > the big one...4.3 liter. They have been using these
> > in trucks for a long time, and I think most were
> > made with throttle body injection, although the
> > early ones had Quadrajets, which were computer
> > controlled. I have a TBI 4.3 that I'm planning to
> > rebuild, although I don't have a home for it yet.
> > The 4.3 is 3/4 of a 350 V-8, very compact, although
> > it probably has the same steering/exhaust clearance
> > problem as putting a V-8 in an AD truck. At 262
> > cubes, it compares favorably with the big truck 261
> > straight 6, and should be much easier to find.
> >
> > You may also find a fuel injected straight 6 engine
> > to use, although I think (not sure...) that Chevy
> > went to the V-6 in trucks when they went to fuel
> > injection...so I don't think there's a Chevy fuel
> > injected straight 6 available. F*rd and J**p used
> > FI straight 6 engines for a long time, they may
> > still be making them!
> >
> > On any fuel injected swap, you'll need the computer,
> > harness, and all the necessary sensors (some you can
> > do without, but most are needed). The fuel system
> > has to be pressurized, the best way is with a custom
> > tank with an intank pump, but you can use other
> > methods also...mounting a F*rd type external pump on
> > the frame will work if you keep the gas tank in the
> > cab, so it gets good gravity feed to the pump. If
> > the pump runs out of fuel, even for a short time,
> > and sucks air, the engine can die. Another method
> > to feed the pressure pump is to use a small
> > reservoir that is fed by a normal low pressure
> > pump. Beware that the fuel injected engines use a
> > bypass pressure regulator, and require a return
> > line, and if you use a reservoir it also needs this
> > return line running thru it. Port fuel injection
> > usually requires about 50 psi (although the
> > regulator knocks it down to 30 to 40 psi), and
> > throttle body injection requires around 15 psi.
> > You'll also want to have some understanding of how
> > the fuel injection system works...there are some
> > good books out there on doing EFI swaps. There are
> > also many companies that sell computer harnesses for
> > engine swaps into older vehicles, so you don't need
> > to be an electrical wizard, you just need to
> > understand the basics.
> >
> > Or, you can just build the 283 to be clean...put in
> > a small (short duration) cam, make sure you have PCV
> > working properly, and if you get it tuned real well
> > and want to do some experimenting, you might
> > consider putting a catalytic converter on it...but
> > beware there is a fire danger, they can get very hot
> > when the engine misfires or runs rich or excessively
> > lean. Might blow someone's mind to see almost no
> > hc/co coming out the tailpipe of your 51...
> >
> > Jim F
> > 59s in AZ
> > oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
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